Brexit thread - what happens next

[StriderX]

Yes my investments are only down 25% instead of the 30% they were a couple of days ago. Excuse me if I don't crack open the champagne just yet.

People are starving in Africa... just so you know.

 

[Mynight]

Yes my investments are only down 25% instead of the 30% they were a couple of days ago. Excuse me if I don't crack open the champagne just yet.

On the upside the investments I made are up 5% .

In retrospect I realise this is not helping .

 

[do_ron_ron]

SNP apparently going to ask the Speaker of the commons today to be declared the official opposition party as Labour can not meet it's Shadow commitments.

Nothing like rubbing salt in to Labour's problems.

 

[Mr Jack]

And you don't have to be Einstein to see that isn't a good thing for us. Not great for Europe either, but a nice boost for the USA as if our research sector declines, our monolingual English speaking researchers will naturally gravitate towards the USA.

Monolinguality is less of an issue for science than you'd think. The majority of research groups in Europe - except in France - are English speaking. I'm moving to a lab in Germany in October and they do all of their meetings, presentations, and so forth in English. They're already teaching in English at Master's level, and are even starting to teach some undergraduate courses in English.

Go to somewhere like Copenhagen and everyone you meet will speak fluent English, so it's not even that much of an issue outside of the lab.

 

[Firestar_3x]

The speed of the Labour party decline is impressive to say the least.

 

[Mr Jack]

Yes my investments are only down 25% instead of the 30% they were a couple of days ago. Excuse me if I don't crack open the champagne just yet.

Wait until house prices start sliding.

 

[koolpc]

Of course the markets will settle, but will that be at a noticably lower rate than before the exit announcement? That's what people are concerned about.. think before you post....

Also, all those countries outside the EU probably aren't in dire straights, but what's that got to do with anything posted? It's probabaly because they haven't just thrown themselves of a bus blindfolded with a "it'll all be fine" attitude that a lot seem to display here.

May 'not' be at a noticeably lower rate though! All this panic talk is pathetic!

Not even a week has gone by since the vote and people are all doom and gloom! UK will recover. Uk will become stronger. We dont need the EU. How many others are going to leave the EU? It is a rotten organisation. UK could not change it from within. We had to leave. Now we can start afresh. This move has shown the EU that we are not weak.

We need more people with balls like Farage to stand up and fight for this country. To make it 'Great' once more.

Imagine if people reacted like you during WWII? All doom and gloom and hiding up their own arses! Lets be strong, united and know that the UK has an awesome future ahead.

 

[do_ron_ron]

Juncker proudly banned officials from holding secret talks with British MEPs but is now going to have a secret meeting with Sturgeon today.

It's staggering how the man can be taken seriously.

Not really, he is following set down procedure in dealing with the UK, no negotiations until we invoke Article 50. Until we do we are only threatening to leave not actually starting to leave so there is nothing to talk about.

Juncker is holding talks with the Leader of another country. Happens all the time in most countries.

 

[Bonjour]

Those saying let's make Britain 'Great' again.

When, in your view, were we last 'Great'?

 

[Mynight]

Those saying let's make Britain 'Great' again.

When, in your view, were we last 'Great'?

When Wales and Scotland united with us. Kinda the basis behind the "great" bit iirc.

 

[Rilot]

Those saying let's make Britain 'Great' again.

When, in your view, were we last 'Great'?

Probably around 1922 when the empire was at its largest.

 

[do_ron_ron]

the eu cant block access to the single market, what they can do is enforce tariffs on our access nothing more.

True but that puts British business at a disadvantage over EU competitors and we still have to abide by the rules and regs pertaining to the goods anyway.

 

[BuffetSlayer]

Hasn't all that plan already been reversed?

Yup, it certainly seems that way, although I think in the coming months we will start to see a more coherent strategy for our exit from the EU. Or perhaps not if there is a general election and a pro remain government comes to power.

I guess time will tell.

 

[BubbySoup]

Those saying let's make Britain 'Great' again.

When, in your view, were we last 'Great'?

I'm guessing for the leavers, any time before we joined the EU/common market when we governed our own affairs completely.

However, as many have pointed out - it was a completely different world back then.

 

[Crpwned]

May 'not' be at a noticeably lower rate though! All this panic talk is pathetic!

Not even a week has gone by since the vote and people are all doom and gloom! UK will recover. Uk will become stronger. We dont need the EU. How many others are going to leave the EU? It is a rotten organisation. UK could not change it from within. We had to leave. Now we can start afresh. This move has shown the EU that we are not weak.

We need more people with balls like Farage to stand up and fight for this country. To make it 'Great' once more.

Imagine if people reacted like you during WWII? All doom and gloom and hiding up their own arses! Lets be strong, united and know that the UK has an awesome future ahead.

There's panic talk, and then there's the talk of a realist who can clearly see what is occuring at this moment and isn't burying their head in the sand until it all blows over. Ignorance, in this case, is not bliss chum.

As for needing more people like Farage, god help us all. The last thing we need right now is people like him, burning bridges as far as the eye can see without any real plan to back up all his rabble-rousing.

As for your last paragraph, maybe you need to sit down and relax a little before you blow a leak. I'm not the one hiding up their own arse here, it's people like you that have a wholly blinkered outlook on the situation.

I agree let us try and unite, but the UK has an entirely uncertain future ahead of it.

 

[Domo]

I see Stephen Crabb and Sajid Javid who has put their hat in for leader on a joint ticket says that the red line is immigration. They said people voted for control of immigration in the referendum and we cant go back on that.

Crabb's in the news a fair old bit this morning so I looked him up.

On 2 March 2016, Crabb voted with the government to reduce by £30 per week the amount of Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) paid to disabled people newly placed in the cohort of recipients known as the 'work-related activity group' from April 2017. Crabb's constituency office was vandalised afterwards, with graffiti asking: “Why do you hate the sick?” seen on its facade on 12 March.

Src. Wiki

 

[Demon]

Those saying let's make Britain 'Great' again.

When, in your view, were we last 'Great'?

It's not about being Great again, it's about moving forward and ensuring we can keep Britain Great, and even Greater in the future..

I don't support the half-way house we have with the EU now, the whole reason we have all these concessions is that clearly we don't fit the EU model, or we'd not need so many special conditions.. And now the EU are effectively saying no more, as they have for the last year, then what do we do?

All or all out I think suits us better..

 

[englishpremier]

True but that puts British business at a disadvantage over EU competitors and we still have to abide by the rules and regs pertaining to the goods anyway.

They are likely to face the same tariffs as the US does with currently are below 3% in most areas. Not the worst position to start from.

 

[do_ron_ron]

Just go full free trade and it wont matter, tariffs do sweet pish all.

Duh! All countries protect some industries through tariffs. It is to ensure no mass redundancy and economic and social crisis in the country. Most Western countries would never be able to compete against low cost countries for most of their goods.
Are we not seeing the effects of the decisions of a sector of our society that feels ignored, left out?
Total free trade is a delusion.

 

[Jono8]

What is irritating me the most is all the backtracking from leave.

If we are going to leave, go all out and ***** leave, no freedom of movement, no EEA, no EFTA. Leave and see if we are better off.

If we just end up part of the EFTA, still keep freedom of movement and still have to abide by a lot of EU legislation but without any say in anything that happens in Europe then it will be terrible.

That will be a worse position than we were in before.

As a remain supporter I would be happier if the referendum was truly upheld and we properly left completely, no backtracking or pussyfooting around. To just re-join as part of the EFTA will be a punch in the face to both camps.

It is completely in or completely out, in my opinion.