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So a new card at around the same price/performance of a exiting card.
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Actually people that actually know anything about GPU, particularly Nvidia's would know their EOL graphic card will never perform as well for new titles as it once were when it was still current gen, simply due to the they stop putting in the effort in optimising old gen cards after new gen cards are launched. Just look at how 780Ti gone from beating 290x by fair margin to falling behind by a fair margin after the 900 series were launched, simply due to no longer focusing on optimising performance for the old cards.Ah, so for those that
have nothing
know nothing about GPU's to be confident to buy 2nd hand
or on a budget.
Ok I get it now and what AMD are up to. Makes sense and will probably work. IMHO it means AMD have given up on chasing nVidia and concentrating on the cheap end of the market. I do hope I am wrong.
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/13.html
What's going on in the TPU review. The 480 seems to be beating the 390X and even the FuryX in some games. And why is a FuryX slower than the 390 and Fury in Fallout 4
There is so much discrepancy between reviews.
If the 480 is really this good at stock then the non-reference AIB versions should be worthwhile afterall IF the price is reasonable.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview/3
So much for a whole new architecture. This starts to explain the performance gap between expectations and reality.
As I told people time and time again, a new architecture will bring 15-30% improvements in most cases. AMD claimed the 14nm node provided a 70% improvement. I was generous and said that Polaris might get a 30% architecture improvements combined with the node and Polaris would be twice the performance per watt and to totally ignore the 2.8X figure AMD PR put out. Looks like I should have been more pessimistic and gone with a 15% architecture improvement and means the performance per watt difference between nvidia and AMD have only increased this generation. This is born out in the TPU reviews, Pascal has 80% more performance per watt.
Nvidia has seen a bigger architectural improvement in pascal than AMD has managed with Polaris. That is quite incredible considering the huge efficiency changes Maxwell achieved overall Kepler. Taking in to account the node shrink Pascal has improved about 25% architecture wise, Polaris 15%.
Actually lining up the RX480 8GB against some of its closest performance competitors shows us an interesting yin and yang situation. At 1080P –a screen resolution most gamers in this segment currently have- it polls above the GTX 970 and is just 13% slower than the once-mighty GTX 980. Meanwhile moving on to 1440P highlights NVIDIA’s weakness at higher resolutions since this card is able to move even further afield of the GTX 970 and nearly catches the GTX 980. Given the fact these two cards were priced at $329 and $549 respectively not that long ago, it is abundantly obvious that AMD is well on their way towards offering the best price / performance GPU around.
Moving on to DX12 and we see AMD’s new architecture really coming into its own against the NVIDIA cards. It absolutely demolishes the GTX 970 across the board (even in NVIDIA-friendly games like Tomb Raider) and even manages to run circles around that once-expensive GTX 980. These tests show Maxwell’s performance in current DX12 applications is nothing short of embarrassing and proves this architecture simply wasn’t designed with these types of workloads in mind. How this translates to Pascal or upcoming DX12-based games is unknown at this point (remember, our sample size is quite small here) but something drastic needs to be done if NVIDIA’s mid-tier competitors are to have any hope against Polaris.
It's a tough one, I missed out on the £175 cards by a couple of minutes, I'm so annoyed about that I'll be going elsewhere for it now. That aside for me at this moment in time it feels like the right fit, I predominantly console game, I'm exclusively at 1080p and I want to at least be able the run DX12 games as and when they arise for the next 2 years or so. I may be showing my ignorance but as far as DX12 goes its on par if not outperforming the 970?
From Canucks - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...9-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-24.html
DX11
DX12
Why would anyone in their right mind and without malice recommend a 970 (or even a 980, for that matter) over the RX480?!
From Canucks - http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...9-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-24.html
DX11
DX12
Why would anyone in their right mind and without malice recommend a 970 (or even a 980, for that matter) over the RX480?!
You should also remember that 970's performance will begin to drop for new titles with it became EOL. Just think about how the mighty 780Ti fallen (behind) cards that it once beat.Whilst I think the rx480 is the better choice compared to a 970.....it might be worth remembering how many dx12 games there are right now or even how many there will be in a years time...compared to the rest of the pc game library
Ah, so for those that
have nothing
know nothing about GPU's to be confident to buy 2nd hand
or on a budget.
Ok I get it now and what AMD are up to. Makes sense and will probably work. IMHO it means AMD have given up on chasing nVidia and concentrating on the cheap end of the market. I do hope I am wrong.
How many times do I have to refute that this isn't what is going on before you stop actually using it as an excuse?It sucks for people on these forums though who thought Polaris was going to be pushing towards 980ti levels of performance.
I'm really disappointed to see so many AMD apologists who were expressly expecting more not say a bad word about this and just spend all their time defending it.
I get that you dont want your favored brand to take a hit and of course there's the 'well if Nvidia have it all their way' arguments, but it all still strikes me as quite dishonest.
The card is disappointing. Not bad at all, just disappointing given the expectations and circumstances. I also get that there's probably a reasonable amount of unjustified negativity, but still. Seems like that is just giving some an excuse to find positives to point out.
I'm really disappointed to see so many AMD apologists who were expressly expecting more not say a bad word about this and just spend all their time defending it.
I get that you dont want your favored brand to take a hit and of course there's the 'well if Nvidia have it all their way' arguments, but it all still strikes me as quite dishonest.
The card is disappointing. Not bad at all, just disappointing given the expectations and circumstances. I also get that there's probably a reasonable amount of unjustified negativity, but still. Seems like that is just giving some an excuse to find positives to point out.
I'm really disappointed to see so many AMD apologists who were expressly expecting more not say a bad word about this and just spend all their time defending it.
I get that you dont want your favored brand to take a hit and of course there's the 'well if Nvidia have it all their way' arguments, but it all still strikes me as quite dishonest.
The card is disappointing. Not bad at all, just disappointing given the expectations and circumstances. I also get that there's probably a reasonable amount of unjustified negativity, but still. Seems like that is just giving some an excuse to find positives to point out.