The next Conservative Leader thread.

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If the Conservatives vote in a candidate that was campaigning for Remain - I see no reason why Cameron quit...

Still can't believe Boris has bottled it, at least he would have some credibility for standing up for his agenda/beliefs.
 
Immigration was blatantly the main concern of most leave voters. That's not to say that those with concerns are racist, or that I agree with those concerns - but a lot of people, and a very high number of leave voters, do have those concerns.

The problem is that politicians have been very quick to remove money from public services, they then don't want that to be seen, so some - and a media that supports the parties doing such things - use smoke and mirrors to blame a section of society.

People don't understand the benefits that immigration bring, and instead rely on a message that's been repeated that often that people think that there must be some truth in it. Even if there's not.

I'm not dismissing people's concerns, even though I disagree with them. The way you solve these issues though is through acknowledging concerns and being able to talk through them, through education and debate.

Instead though, throughout the entire referendum campaign, emotional words such as "scaremongering", "propaganda", "we don't trust experts", etc have been used to shutdown conversation whenever anyone wanted to discuss sensibly, show reason and use logic.

That's why Gove's scary. May would be worse (she'd remove civil liberties faster than anyone else, and is very authoritarian). Crabb has shown homophobic tendencies. Fox's special advisor controversy show's that he's all for nepotism and abuse of public office for his friends.

For all those reasons I think Andrea Leadsom may just get the job, because she's carried out the least worst actions to date....
 
Lets not pretend that DC was never going to resign. Half of the EU thread was about him not lasting till Christmas when it wasn't a post complaining about migrants or sovereignty.

As far as i am concerned, the choice of replacements last week are no better than this week. Boris was not gunning the position just yet, he was just setting himself up for a future win.
 
Jacob Rees-Mogg is a leech on democracy.

He filibusters anything he disagrees with to limit anyone else having a say, and stop votes being able to take place.
 
Marky said:
If the Conservatives vote in a candidate that was campaigning for Remain - I see no reason why Cameron quit...

Still can't believe Boris has bottled it, at least he would have some credibility for standing up for his agenda/beliefs.
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Is Boris sitting and waiting to see who and what happens in the Tory party? He may have other plans as the Tory party is blocking him, UKIP?
 
I can't make sense of Gove.

I thought Andrea Leadsom spoke well in the EU debates, but beyond that I'm not sure about her either.
 
Orcish-Horde said:
Is Boris sitting and waiting to see who and what happens in the Tory party? He may have other plans as the Tory party is blocking him, UKIP?
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I reckon his political career in the UK is dead now. More chance of him becoming Donald Trump's running mate (which is legally allowed to do) than him ever becoming PM.
 
Just read about May's claim that she will no longer aim for a budget surplus by 2020. Good, I'm really glad about that. I've been saying for yonks that there's no need to reach a surplus so quickly. Hopefully, austerity will slow down a little. That will make her very popular.
 
Theresa May has said a number of things over the years I've found very alarming. I hope she'll be questioned about them in more detail.

It sounds like Gove will end up leader, though, the big money people seem to be behind him.
 
Robbo said:
I can't make sense of Gove.
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Some of the stuff he has done or atleast had/has his name on I can't agree with at all and seems to have been done with little consideration for the effect it has on the people involved but on the other hand a friend of my mum works for him and says he is actually a really nice person... so who knows.
 
Robbo said:
It sounds like Gove will end up leader, though, the big money people seem to be behind him.
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Gove will be a spectacular disaster. Truly spectacular. Where's that cartoon? Oh yes...

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Can you imagine how negotiations will go with Gove fronting them?
 
Avenged7Fold said:
The polls suggested it was the most listed reason for voting. I didnt say all of them or a majority of them but a great deal of them, which is true.

Would you not say sovereignty and effects of immigration were the main driving forces behind the bulk of the leave voters?
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Generated by the same companies that predicted another coalition Government at the last GE? The same ones that cited a Remain win?

Well they're credible.
 
Christ.

Come back Dave. All is forgiven.

Here's hoping there's a snap election and the Lib Dems do surge, as right now they're the only party with a decent current (or likely future) leader (not counting the SNP).

Actually, I'm not sure I'd object to a coalition between a Theresa May led Tory Party and a Tim Farron led Lib Dems. The HRA would be safe, we'd stay in the ECHR, and our privacy would be safe(r).
 
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