Austrian Grand Prix 2016, Spielberg - Race 9/21

Ok so you can't be bothered.

Got it.

I don't think Nico crashed into him on purpose it didn't appear he turned into him he just didn't bother to turn, he was an idiot for that and it looks like a cover up of blaming it on the brakes, he took a gamble and lost epically, it's his own fault, but if they didn't bump and Nico wins is there a problem with what he did?
 
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several examples = cant be bothered.

interesting view point,

compare to your statement with nothing at all to back up your point.
 
So just had confirmation that Mercedes didn't sabotage Hamilton from Kravitz.

They just messed up on the 1 or 2 stop call. Racing Ferrari only at the beginning.

Was it Skeeter who is in awe of these flawless engineers?
 
You do think that because they screwed up Hamilton's pitstop when they messed it up they would have kept Rosberg out for an extra lap to get Hamilton ahead safely.

3.3 seconds he lost in pitstops to Rosberg. Stupid team keep messing up for Hamilton.
 
I remember when Schumacher (Rosberg) did this to Montoya (Hamilton) at Sepang, and Montoya got penalised!

Equally Montoya did this exact same thing to Schumacher, and indeed at the same corner, and nobody cried then.
 
Psi Jay said:
All I heard was him mention brakes several times, I'll watch it again :)
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before the video and after the video.

when they actually showed him the onboard he just said "yep" nothing else.

they cant go in public yeah he cheated. both corporate image and stewards investigation.

and NL said similar, break issues let LH get along side, but did not cause the crash and said it was Ros fault.

I don't know what more people want either to say. with out completely shooting themselves and their team in the foot.
 
Steampunk said:
In public, and in front of Mercedes corporate, what else can he do? In private, things might be different, especially when the whole world is looking at what Nico did and Mercedes are getting their reputation tarnished.
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I know he has to look to be doing/saying the right thing, but defending your driver when he clearly cheated has the potential to make you look worse.
 
Glaucus said:
several examples = cant be bothered.

interesting view point,

compare to your statement with nothing at all to back up your point.
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You've given one example and the DM have vague other example. I asked you to to tell me if its rose tinted specs or not as I was a boy at the time (8-14) so didn't get tied up in the full inner workings of F1 I just enjoyed the racing and it seemed a lot less sterile back then and I that's why I said what I did.

But you don't seem to want to discuss it further so whatever man.
 
No attempt to make the corner, blocking the re-entry of Hamilton on the track (looked deliberate), driving with damage, seems pretty slam dunk. Surprised still no news about a penalty. Just purely dangerous.
 
So it sounds like Mercedes made the same amateur mistake that McLaren did with Lewis at China 2007, they were trying to mark the wrong driver, back then it ultimately cost Lewis the 2007 championship.

Vettel is not Lewis' championship rival ths year, they always should have been marking Nico's progress today after Nico's early stop.
 
Psi Jay said:
I know he has to look to be doing/saying the right thing, but defending your driver when he clearly cheated has the potential to make you look worse.
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It has the potential to look worse, but calling Rosberg straight out in the media as his fault has the potential to cause all kinds of issues inside the team when they've just signed him to a new contract.

Again going back to the Senna/Prost example, or Hamilton/Alonso, when team mates and groups of engineers feel angry they start effectively cheating internally. Alonso's team lied and found a way to block Hamilton and cheat a pole, though they got penalised for it(fairly). You have one side hiding data or strategy from the other. Say you're doing a one stop like the other driver but create an issue to stop early and really do a two stop, etc.

When you make an issue between a team boss and a driver, the driver and his side can create problems where they stop working for the team and start getting a bit naughty and work for themselves rather than the team... if that happens the other driver gets angry and the whole team atmosphere can turn to ****.

Ultimately Rosberg is the second highest paid guy in the team and they just gave him a 2 year contract extension so ultimately they have to work with him and his team.
 
Glaucus said:
before the video and after the video.

when they actually showed him the onboard he just said "yep" nothing else.

they cant go in public yeah he cheated. both corporate image and stewards investigation.

and NL said similar, break issues let LH get along side, but did not cause the crash and said it was Ros fault.

I don't know what more people want either to say. with out completely shooting themselves and their team in the foot.
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I'm not saying that he should have blamed Rosberg, I'm saying he was way too defensive when Rosberg clearly and intentionally caused a collision. Basically his defence was too strong and vocal, he should have reeled it in a bit.
 
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