84 Confirmed dead after another apparent terrorism attack in Nice, France,

estebanrey · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:55

CaptainRAVE said:
I believe that our police force has more self control.

Our armed police shot a bloke dead because he was carrying a table leg, and they were highly trained...how many "well I thought he was pulling a gun out, not his wallet" type incidents when you're average bobby has a gun too?

Not not mention one of the last police shootings caused country-wise riots and the fact no matter how dodgy the incident we seem incapable of ever making one of our officers face any legal consequences for bad decisions that result in someone dead (Jean Charles Demenez anyone?).

No thanks.

FTM · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:56

hold their families accountable..sweet jesus is this whats its come to?

Semple · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:57

RIP and thoughts to the families affected.

I think these are just one of those situations where these types of incidents are unlikely to be prevented.

Orionaut · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:57

Psi Jay said:
, hardly cause to deport him. There must be many more like him, or worse, who have dual nationality.

Why not if Dual nationality gives you the realistic option.

LzR · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:58

estebanrey said:
Our armed police shot a bloke dead because he was carrying a table leg, and they were highly trained...how many "well I thought he was pulling a gun out, not his wallet" when you're average bobby has one too?

Not not mention one of the last police shootings caused country-wise riots.

No thanks.

So a mistake was made, is that really grounds to ignore the heightened threat of terrorism and how to deal with it? Just saying.

Yas786 · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:58

RIP to all those who lost their lives, truly horrific :-(

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Lol at some of the downright stupid and ignorant comments in here by the usual suspects lol.

LzR · 15 Jul 2016 at 08:59

Orionaut said:
Why not if Dual nationality gives you the realistic option.

I'm not arguing, I'm saying how would they justify petty criminals for just that, petty crime?

LzR · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:00

Freakbro said:
To be fair, yes, anyone can slip and say a moronic thing occasionaly

Ah shuddup!

Anyway I was merely pointing out that the intelligence services had missed this guy, which they did.

MooMoo444 · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:01

Surely BBC could have worded it a bit better than "Nice Attack: Dozens Killed"

RIP to all

Admiral Huddy · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:01

Only just woken to this news .. Horrific ..

No words can describe what those poor families are going through now..

Schlong&Stable · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:02

Experienced UK police officers, i.e. those that have served at least five years should be given thorough firearm training and be armed. In Northern Ireland and the continent, officers carry guns and it hasn't led to large numbers of deaths.

joelk2 · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:04

such a sad world we live in.

llamadal · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:04

All the countries with a strong military need to unite and wipe them off the face of the earth. Absolute scum.

Avenged7Fold · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:04

Psi Jay said:
I'm not arguing, I'm saying how would they justify petty criminals for just that, petty crime?

The really petty crimes would cost a fortune to sort out if you required to deport everyone you could deport after any petty crime.

llamadal said:
All the countries with a strong military need to unite and wipe them off the face of the earth. Absolute scum.

I hear stuff like this a lot. Who exactly are you wiping out?

If its specifically terrorists, military power is not the problem. It is not like there is not enough available at our fingertips. It is mainly what we can realistically do with it that is the issue.

Swifty55 · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:05

Thompson_NCL said:
Experienced UK police officers, i.e. those that have served at least five years should be given thorough firearm training and be armed. In Northern Ireland and the continent, officers carry guns and it hasn't led to large numbers of deaths.

Wasn't there an article about how they wanted to arm more UK police officers, but the officers refused due to the problems with "police brutality"?

VoG · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:10

pioneer2000 said:
hold their families accountable for these sort of actions.

You mean like they do in Israel, yeah hows that working out for them?, oh wait, it isn't.

Schlong&Stable · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:11

Swifty55 said:
Wasn't there an article about how they wanted to arm more UK police officers, but the officers refused due to the problems with "police brutality"?

I don't know about that, but it sounds pretty stupid on the part of those police officers. I'd sack them.

LzR · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:12

PapaLazaru said:
The secret is in proactive intelligence, not reactive defence.

As I said, they missed this one. If it had been a dig then I would have followed it up with something to insinuate as such. As you have said, you interpreted it as a dig, which it wasn't, therefore you got it wrong, you misunderstood what I was saying. So then, why would I backtrack if you got it wrong? I wouldn't, so your 'you are trying to turn it on me' is rubbish.

That's it, I'm leaving it there, it's not the time to be bickering fella.

Destination · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:13

Madness too.
You can't hold families responsible.

You can invade and displace the caliphate, boots on the ground, hundreds of thousands of them.
Displace remove, it won't get them all, but if they hold no ground, then they will relaise the current chapter in the book isn't for this time, the caliphate disbands, and it will stall the growth of attacks.

It will do nothing to help with the cells in europe, but it will stem the refugee flow.
It will stem the traffic. Won't stop terrorism, but will help actually show the moderates we will step in to obliterate the grounds the extremists hold.

Frankly I think anyone joining the army in any western nation now needs lessons in arabic by default.
We need to actually do this.

sityeuropa · 15 Jul 2016 at 09:19

Every state needs strict border controls now. Enough of this free movement nonsense.