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Just look at Farage's carbon copy of Nazi anti-Semitic propaganda. Your answer is there.
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Just look at Farage's carbon copy of Nazi anti-Semitic propaganda. Your answer is there.
genuine question - we are told that western intervention in the ME is a good recruiting tool for Isis so why is that if Isis is busy killing them? Bringing brexit into this thread is sick.
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Shock and/or the true mavity of the situation just not registering in their minds.
At least for some.
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Bringing brexit into this thread is sick.
Post #46. Go read.
Yet collateral damage from an anti Isis drone attack is enough for them to join up?
The civilian death tool thanks to Western interference in Iraqi is measured in the hundreds of thousands
So yes, many of these people who have lost family, friends and loved ones are obviously going to want revenge.
If someone wiped out my entire family I'd seek revenge at ANY cost, the reality of whether it was intentional or not would mean absolutely nothing!
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It was not about a brexit agenda or i would attached something beyond a surface comparison, it was a comparison for recruitment. ISIS no doubt have some political motive at its core, be it religious based or not.
It is easier to demonise foreigners and empathise with local aggressors because they are local. They are people you see and possibly know.
It is not about numbers but rather about perception. The devil you cant see but know about is often scarier than the devil you can see.
Do you honestly believe that west involvement does not help recruitment despite all of the admissions from terrorists that it was one of their factors for joining?
It is easier to demonise foreigners and empathise with local aggressors because they are local. They are people you see and possibly know.
It is not about numbers but rather about perception. The devil you cant see but know about is often scarier than the devil you can see.
Do you honestly believe that west involvement does not help recruitment despite all of the admissions from terrorists that it was one of their factors for joining?
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The civilian death tool thanks to Western interference in Iraqi is measured in the hundreds of thousands
So yes, many of these people who have lost family, friends and loved ones are obviously going to want revenge.
If someone wiped out my entire family I'd seek revenge at ANY cost, the reality of whether it was intentional or not would mean absolutely nothing!
Get revenge by joining the group that were ultimately responsible for the drone attack in the first place?
Who'd you seek revenge against though? The drone pilot? Politicians? Random Civvies?
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Get revenge by joining the group that were ultimately responsible for the drone attack in the first place?
You are trying to apply logic to a religious political war, where the 'good guys' are killing tons of civilians and the bad guys are doing the same but in smaller scale at a lower budget. People will seek revenge for self-satisfaction and to relieve themselves of agony, not for any sort of thought out justice.
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The civilian death tool thanks to Western interference in Iraqi is measured in the hundreds of thousands
So yes, many of these people who have lost family, friends and loved ones are obviously going to want revenge.
If someone wiped out my entire family I'd seek revenge at ANY cost, the reality of whether it was intentional or not would mean absolutely nothing!
Tunisia is not currently experiencing much in the way of drone strikes though and most of the Muslims in France are from North Africa not the Middle East.
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Well the fraction of Tunisians that are Muslim terrorists are pretty small. If you have enough people, eventually one of them is going to be a nutcase and empathise with other nutcases across the world more than their western neighbours because they share religion and that means more to them than sharing a fence.
Get revenge by joining the group that were ultimately responsible for the drone attack in the first place?
ISIL weren't even around when we illegally invaded Iraq
ISIL, radical/fanatical Imans ..etc simply brainwash and indoctrinate people in the same way you seem to have been manipulated into thinking that the West can do no wrong and that we are the good guys with absolutely no blood on our hands!!!
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Who makes them the 'good guys' or 'bad guys'. Depends on which side you are.
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Precisely why it was in quotation marks. Though can hazzard a guess that the orchestraters form both sides are bad guys
ISIL weren't even around when we illegally invaded Iraq
ISIL, radical/fanatical Imans ..etc simply brainwash and indoctrinate people in the same way you seem to have been manipulated into thinking that the West can do no wrong and that we are the good guys with absolutely no blood on our hands!!!
They've likely existed for decades, there are plenty of known groups that are small time in comparison and thus get no news/attention from agencies.
You sound like you have a very low opinion of the locals.
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I still find it hard not to be mainly in agreement with the ex CIA agent Michael Scheur's opinions on the US and the West's policies and how they are not only ineffective, but blatantly contributing to the rise of Islamic extremism.
I also find it hard that people still do not see that through their crazy immigration policies and rights for minorities, Europe is still in denial that they are facing a proper war, and continue to poo poo such talk as inflammatory.
http://non-intervention.com/
He is shunned by many Liberal, but his ideology seems sound, if hard to swallow.
I also find it hard that people still do not see that through their crazy immigration policies and rights for minorities, Europe is still in denial that they are facing a proper war, and continue to poo poo such talk as inflammatory.
http://non-intervention.com/
He is shunned by many Liberal, but his ideology seems sound, if hard to swallow.
ISIL weren't even around when we illegally invaded Iraq
ISIL, radical/fanatical Imans ..etc simply brainwash and indoctrinate people in the same way you seem to have been manipulated into thinking that the West can do no wrong and that we are the good guys with absolutely no blood on our hands!!!
Where have I said that?
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Which locals? Last i checked it wasn't the western civilians that called for bombing.
I do indeed have a low opinion of people who call for blood because others are different or for profit. IE Muslim and Westerner haters and oppertunist war benefactors.
Who specifically do you think i have a low opinion of?