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I'm glad you disassociate yourself from the actions of the IRA. From my own memory I see little difference between Muslims at large Now and Irish Catholics at large during the period that the IRA were active terrorists.

I don't recall Irish Catholics, leaders of the church etc apologising for/denouncing IRA actions at the time, though I was relatively young during that period so perhaps they were active in denouncing the violence on mass and I just missed it?

They were as were my family at every opportunity. But there were many Irish who didn't and they needed telling and there were many fights about it too, not least my grandmother bless her sole, who fought people who backed the IRA in Birmingham in the 70's. I mean actually slapped them around.
 
Someone makes a claim and i ask for proof to back up their claim.
I didnt want to discuss other stuff so why wud i answer to it

So you're unwilling to enter into discussion yourself but you're happy to make demands of numerous posters then throw in a few insulting remarks when you don't hear the answers you want to hear... That is borderline trolling.
 
Well your wrong, only the most blind fool would defend or rationalise the actions of isis. Remember they target everyone who disagrees with them and usually that is Muslims. I wonder who these Muslims are who talk to you, sound like a bunch of grovelling idiots.

Well that learned me didn't it. A person on the internet is telling me I am wrong because his experience is different and my associates and friends are grovelling idiots. You'll appreciate if I don't seek to continue debating your point.
 
So you're unwilling to enter into discussion yourself but you're happy to make demands of numerous posters then throw in a few insulting remarks when you don't hear the answers you want to hear... That is borderline trolling.

As usual.
 
Well that learned me didn't it. A person on the internet is telling me I am wrong because his experience is different and my associates and friends are grovelling idiots. You'll appreciate if I don't seek to continue debating your point.

:D
 
So you're unwilling to enter into discussion yourself but you're happy to make demands of numerous posters then throw in a few insulting remarks when you don't hear the answers you want to hear... That is borderline trolling.



i didnt insult anyone, if people felt hurt then *insert witty comment here but not insulting* :p

borderline trolling because i asked for proof and didnt want to discuss other matters which i was not interested in..............................

i wont even comment further as my posts seem to be getting deleted a fair bit.
 
i didnt insult anyone, if people felt hurt then *insert witty comment here but not insulting* :p

borderline trolling because i asked for proof and didnt want to discuss other matters which i was not interested in..............................

i wont even comment further as my posts seem to be getting deleted a fair bit.

Doesn't that say a lot.
 
borderline trolling because i asked for proof and didnt want to discuss other matters which i was not interested in..............................

i wont even comment further as my posts seem to be getting deleted a fair bit.

You can't really have it both ways, the question asked of you was more or less the reverse of the one you demanded others answer. You're interested enough in the topic when you're making demands of others yet you dodge the question yourself and resort to making snide comments or leaving the thread when challenged... that isn't discussion it is borderline trolling. If you're getting posts deleted by a third party then perhaps there are others who consider that sort of thing to be trolling too.
 
You can't really have it both ways, the question asked of you was more or less the reverse of the one you demanded others answer. You're interested enough in the topic when you're making demands of others yet you dodge the question yourself and resort to making snide comments or leaving the thread when challenged... that isn't discussion it is borderline trolling. If you're getting posts deleted by a third party then perhaps there are others who consider that sort of thing to be trolling too.

it was put down as bickering :p

your argument is coming across almost religious.
person 1: God exists he created everything
person 2: Prove it
person 1: You prove he didnt!!!!!!!


a guy makes a claim, it isnt my job to disprove him but his job to prove it.
 
I'm glad you disassociate yourself from the actions of the IRA. From my own memory I see little difference between Muslims at large Now and Irish Catholics at large during the period that the IRA were active terrorists.

I don't recall Irish Catholics, leaders of the church etc apologising for/denouncing IRA actions at the time, though I was relatively young during that period so perhaps they were active in denouncing the violence on mass and I just missed it?

Classic 'but white people' 'but Christians'.
If you can't remember it, perhaps it's something you should look up? Google may help.
I'll give you a head start. When Googling the 'condemnation of the ira' the very first result states 'despite formal condemnation by the Roman catholic hierarchy'.
What you're also missing the point on yet again (starting to think it's intentional) is that the ira were not a religious faction, they did not carry out their acts in the name of catholicism. They just happened to generally be catholics since it's the predominant religion in Ireland, or at least was.
Theirs was a civil/attempted war of independence. They carried out their disgusting acts with a political agenda. Not a religious one.
 
i expect you to provide proof for the same source as those others who follow islam, the quran.
a book you should know since you feel billions of muslims are missing knowledge you have

That doesn't even make sense for a start. I believe I already answered what I think is your point in a previous thread though.
 
Classic 'but white people' 'but Christians'.
If you can't remember it, perhaps it's something you should look up? Google may help.
I'll give you a head start. When Googling the 'condemnation of the ira' the very first result states 'despite formal condemnation by the Roman catholic hierarchy'.
What you're also missing the point on yet again (starting to think it's intentional) is that the ira were not a religious faction, they did not carry out their acts in the name of catholicism. They just happened to generally be catholics since it's the predominant religion in Ireland, or at least was.
Theirs was a civil/attempted war of independence. They carried out their disgusting acts with a political agenda. Not a religious one.

Bingo!
 
Classic 'but white people' 'but Christians'.
If you can't remember it, perhaps it's something you should look up? Google may help.
I'll give you a head start. When Googling the 'condemnation of the ira' the very first result states 'despite formal condemnation by the Roman catholic hierarchy'.
What you're also missing the point on yet again (starting to think it's intentional) is that the ira were not a religious faction, they did not carry out their acts in the name of catholicism. They just happened to generally be catholics since it's the predominant religion in Ireland, or at least was.
Theirs was a civil/attempted war of independence. They carried out their disgusting acts with a political agenda. Not a religious one.

Yes if you google for Denouncement of the IRA you can find that Leaders did, as I pointed out my recollection as a youngster was that it was no more apparent than Muslims denouncing ISIS. To that point if you google for Muslim leaders denouncing ISIS you can find this interesting post.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/08/21/muslim-leaders-have-roundly-denounced-islamic-s/200498

As to separating Religion from the troubles in Northern Ireland and with the IRA, suggesting it was a purely political agenda, just wow.

As for the "But Christians" it's not but Christians it's but terror, be it from an attack fighter over Syria or a ISIS supporter in a truck.
 
Well that learned me didn't it. A person on the internet is telling me I am wrong because his experience is different and my associates and friends are grovelling idiots. You'll appreciate if I don't seek to continue debating your point.

Well perhaps coming from the community you talk about I know more then you do...
 
Yes if you google for Denouncement of the IRA you can find that Leaders did, as I pointed out my recollection as a youngster was that it was no more apparent than Muslims denouncing ISIS. To that point if you google for Muslim leaders denouncing ISIS you can find this interesting post.

http://mediamatters.org/research/2014/08/21/muslim-leaders-have-roundly-denounced-islamic-s/200498

As to separating Religion from the troubles in Northern Ireland and with the IRA, suggesting it was a purely political agenda, just wow.

As for the "But Christians" it's not but Christians it's but terror, be it from an attack fighter over Syria or a ISIS supporter in a truck.

And just wow why? Show that religion was the driver. You won't be able to because it simply wasn't. The ira don't want everyone to be catholic. They want a united Ireland free of British rule. That is their mandate. Simple as that.
Religion came in to it because both the Republic and northern were deeply religious countries with differing denominations. One the traditional Irish religion, the other a sign of loyalty to the British crown.
Religion was a way to identify an opponent but it wasn't a goal or objective.
 
And just wow why? Show that religion was the driver. You won't be able to because it simply wasn't. The ira don't want everyone to be catholic. They want a united Ireland free of British rule. That is their mandate. Simple as that.
Religion came in to it because both the Republic and northern were deeply religious countries with differing denominations. One the traditional Irish religion, the other a sign of loyalty to the British crown.
Religion was a way to identify an opponent but it wasn't a goal or objective.

Interesting you selectively attempt to answer one part of that post.
 
Well perhaps coming from the community you talk about I know more then you do...

Perhaps, but you can't dismiss the people I know from the community or be derogatory like you were because their view differs to yours, surely you can see that? It is such dismissive attitudes that I reference above, you have just given a clear example of that and there is also a case of being to close to the coal face too. I have muslim people telling me they see a significant problem in sections of their community. Are they lying, making it up or are they perhaps acknowledging it because they feel it is a problem? You have said rubbish, there is no problem and I think that is a ridiculous comment and again indicative of the issue I reference.
 
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