3 Year Old Boy Dies After Dog Bite

[Thekwango]

We kill the dog, ergo we clearly see it as responsible.

sorry but some animals are aggressive and dangerous, saying the animals actions are purely 100% down to humans is so laughable it's insane.

Careful now - the clowns that want to equate a dog to a human and that humans are at fault for the actions of animals will be up in arms!

 

[Cern]

We kill the dog, ergo we clearly see it as responsible.

sorry but some animals are aggressive and dangerous, saying the animals actions are purely 100% down to humans is so laughable it's insane.

We kill the dog because once it's committed a violet act it can't be trusted anymore. It can be removed from the owner, but you can't exactly re-house it as a rescue dog because who knows if it'll do it again.

If you own a dog, you're responsible for anything it does. 100%. If it trashes someones property, you're responsible. If it poops all over the pavement, you're responsible. If it harms someone, you're responsible.

Dog owners should always have their animal under control and never hand over responsibility to the animal, no matter how well trained you think it is. If a dog 'flips' you can't reason with it, you can only hope to control it. And if you've not trained it properly, that's not going to happen.

 

[ttaskmaster]

LOL standard response, it is naive at best. Fact is when these dogs flip out they do so with far more devastating consequences.

If they flip out like that, then they're not proper Staffies.

So dogs need to be treated with caution at all times and MUST be destroyed if they pose even the suggestion of danger to a human being.

Even the suggestion? That's every single dog out there pretty much.
I assume YOU are prepared to kill the dogs yourself, then?

I know this isn't what you were saying, but every single dog should be muzzled in public irrespective of breed.

That's every working breed rendered useless then...

Is it you who owned this dog? Sure sounds like you're defending it and the owners.

It sounds like that because you didn't bother reading the post and those others it was addressing...

We kill the dog because once it's committed a violet act it can't be trusted anymore. It can be removed from the owner, but you can't exactly re-house it as a rescue dog because who knows if it'll do it again.

That's exactly what happens to a great many rescues. They almost never go on to commit violence again, because they've been homed with more responsible owners.

 

[Faustus]

We kill the dog, ergo we clearly see it as responsible.

sorry but some animals are aggressive and dangerous, saying the animals actions are purely 100% down to humans is so laughable it's insane.

Dogs were bred and domesticated by humans therefore it is down to humans and humans that need to be sorry.

Humans are animals and some of those are aggressive and dangerous - should we apply the same rule?

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Clearly there is a divide of opinion that debate cant get us out of.

Here is one... why the **** do people on country hikes in the middle of nowhere bag up their dogs ****, then leave the bag on the floor?!

 

[FloppyPoppy]

Anyone who says dogs are evil cruel and vicious creatures by nature please educate yourself.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Here is one... why the **** do people on country hikes in the middle of nowhere bag up their dogs ****, then leave the bag on the floor?!

Depends where on the floor... If it's still on the path, chances are they're retarded.
If it's off to one side somewhere then they're likely using the same biodegradable bags we use.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

Depends where on the floor... If it's still on the path, chances are they're retarded.
If it's off to one side somewhere then they're likely using the same biodegradable bags we use.

I find them both on and off the path.

Sainsbury bags, small black bags, tesco bags. Even if it was off to the side, it will be gone much sooner than a biodegradable bag. I can understand if it WAS on the path and they used the bag to remove it from peoples way but sometimes i find these bags in the middle of no where with no path to be seen for hundreds of yards.

I am in the habit of picking up rubbish on way way through such places but i now give the bags a lil kick before picking them up.

Anyone who says dogs are evil cruel and vicious creatures by nature please educate yourself.

Nothing is 'evil' by nature. TBH all dogs were vicious by nature but that has been bred out of them

I will say that if you educate yourself using youtube videos meant to lul the average dog lover into giving likes, i suggest grabbing an education that isn't posted on someones FB status.

 

[dowie]

Anyone who says dogs are evil cruel and vicious creatures by nature please educate yourself.

I'm not sure anyone has said that, perhaps try sticking with the arguments presented (make use of the quote button for example) rather than attacking straw men and posting irrelevant youtube clips.

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Humans are animals and some of those are aggressive and dangerous - should we apply the same rule?

Don't we do that already? Dangerous humans get locked up or in the US executed and potentially dangerous animals are killed without a thought (wolves, bears etc).

That's exactly what happens to a great many rescues. They almost never go on to commit violence again, because they've been homed with more responsible owners.

Except they don't, if they're proven to be dangerous or biters they get put down, certainly in the US. Shelters have a "biters" rule they try and take a dog's bowl with a fake hand on a stick if they go for the hand thats it, its euthanised and with good reason.

 

[Faustus]

Here is one... why the **** do people on country hikes in the middle of nowhere bag up their dogs ****, then leave the bag on the floor?!

I have to say this one puzzles me too. I you go to the trouble of bagging it up then please for goodness sake dispose of it in a responsible manner e.g. in the appropriate bin or if there isn't one take it home. That is what we always did. This sort of behaviour gives pet owners a bad name.

 

[RaohNS]

I am in the habit of picking up rubbish on way way through such places but i now give the bags a lil kick before picking them up..

That's a nasty habit... Hope no-one leaves a burning bag on your porch old man Clements

 

[Faustus]

Don't we do that already? Dangerous humans get locked up or in the US executed and potentially dangerous animals are killed without a thought (wolves, bears etc).



Except they don't, if they're proven to be dangerous or biters they get put down, certainly in the US. Shelters have a "biters" rule they try and take a dog's bowl with a fake hand on a stick if they go for the hand thats it, its euthanised and with good reason.

Totally ridiculous way to test an animals safety - only in the U.S. - the place where you can go into a supermarket by a gun and go and blow someone's head clean off. Yep that's a country that should be giving us lessons alright.

 

[ttaskmaster]

Except they don't, if they're proven to be dangerous or biters they get put down, certainly in the US.

Except that they do, even in the Unites States of Death-Sentence... or so the numerous TV and online shows that show rehabilitated dogs being turned from terrified biters into happy-chappy puppies that trot off into the sunset with a new family that won't beat them, or whatever... I'm sure that wouldn't be going on if all those rehabilitated dogs then went on to bite their new owners, especially given the lawsuits that would fly in such an event.

I you go to the trouble of bagging it up then please for goodness sake dispose of it in a responsible manner e.g. in the appropriate bin or if there isn't one take it home.

Or cast it into the bushes where it can decompose alongside all the other **** from birds, squirrels, rabbits, deer and so on.

 

[Billies Bangers]

Or cast it into the bushes where it can decompose alongside all the other **** from birds, squirrels, rabbits, deer and so on

Dogs suffer from a great many human diseases - why would you want to risk introducing those into wild bird and animal populations via dog faeces? Are there no responsible pet owners on this forum?

 

[ttaskmaster]

Dogs suffer from a great many human diseases - why would you want to risk introducing those into wild bird and animal populations via dog faeces? Are there no responsible pet owners on this forum?

Seriously??!!
How is that ANY different from a dog crapping in the woods like it already has done for many thousands of years? All I've done is move it off your path...

I mean, if saving da ickle birdies is your thing, surely a fox transmitting salmonella from a contaminated water source is more of a risk than a domesticated dog?
What about rats carrying MRSA from feasting in hospital refuse piles and down the sewers?
What about the mice that have picked up a whole cocktail of poisons and detergents from our kitchen floors?
What about all those wild animals that banquet in our bins, and then go **** in the woods?

And if you're worried about a leashed dog transmitting a human disease into the wild, why aren't you out hunting down every unleashed cat (which is most of them), since they can be infected by and transmit the exact same diseases??!!

Now talk to me about being sensible...

 

[Billies Bangers]

Seriously??!!
How is that ANY different from a dog crapping in the woods like it already has done for many thousands of years? All I've done is move it off your path...

I mean, if saving da ickle birdies is your thing, surely a fox transmitting salmonella from a contaminated water source is more of a risk than a domesticated dog?
What about rats carrying MRSA from feasting in hospital refuse piles and down the sewers?
What about the mice that have picked up a whole cocktail of poisons and detergents from our kitchen floors?
What about all those wild animals that banquet in our bins, and then go **** in the woods?

And if you're worried about a leashed dog transmitting a human disease into the wild, why aren't you out hunting down every unleashed cat (which is most of them), since they can be infected by and transmit the exact same diseases??!!

Now talk to me about being sensible...

So ignoring the excuses above are you one of those pet owners that does not clean up after their dog or let's their cat leave it's mess in other people's gardens?

 

[Blackjack Davy]

Stepfather got a dog from a rescue center but it didn't work out, he was aggresive and went for my mother once or twice they had to return it as unsuitable. They got a puppy instead and that worked out fine.

Except that they do, even in the Unites States of Death-Sentence... or so the numerous TV and online shows that show rehabilitated dogs being turned from terrified biters into happy-chappy puppies that trot off into the sunset with a new family that won't beat them, or whatever... I'm sure that wouldn't be going on if all those rehabilitated dogs then went on to bite their new owners, especially given the lawsuits that would fly in such an event. .

You really should do some research before spouting rubbish.

 

[Billies Bangers]

You really should do some research before spouting rubbish.

You can't trust a country or their customs that can have Trump as a possible next President - void example.

 

[Billies Bangers]

Stepfather got a dog from a rescue center but it didn't work out, he was aggresive and went for my mother once or twice they had to return it as unsuitable.

Yea well your mother should have been more careful before marrying him.