The next Labour leader thread
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Unless its a massive blag, it is actually true. This is a group of British fighters in Syria who have named themselves after the late Bob Crow, RMT Union Boss.
I know. It sounds crazy.
But ...
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/bob-crow-brigade-30-miles-stronghold-raqqa-syria-2141320914
http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/f...roup-named-after-uk-trade-unionist-1520200104
Seen letters from LNEC. On my main man (lol) Galloways twitter there is a letter removing someone because of a comment made on their social media. The poster identified as a Corbyn supporter. There is also circumstantial evidence at present to suggest some people may not be receiving ballots for the vote and of the people complaining, again on Galloways twitter is people worried because they are logged as voting Corbyn previously.
Lots to it. Haven't gone whole hog yet and wont now till Tuesday as having a sabbatical from here now.
I told you previously, I ended up with a good job and a nice pension through Mr Blair so I was more than happy with his leadership and wish he was still at the helm.
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Aye, British education at its finest. We let them in, give them benefits, bring them up, educate them, then they go fight for ISIS. How proud we are. Thank you Mr Blair.
That bit isn't usually very true. The "let them in" bit is debatable to. A lot of them are British born
We have been 'letting people in' as you quaintly put it for hundreds of years. I'm not sure that Mr Blair can claim all the credit can he?
Didn't a 'Mr Powell' make a now infamous speech about the dangers of 'letting people in' yet you seem intent on giving the credit to just one man - how so?
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Well ignoring periods of empire and the slave trade, it's also one of those cases where people confuse the net value, as governments often do too, with the rate of immigration. The trends were well in place by the time Maggie departed office and Major took over. As the economy had gone through its eddies and recovered, the emigration rate slowed and immigration rate stabilised and began to increase. Take the population growth since, better education (including English skills across the board), years of uneven European boom, the end of the Cold War, cheaper and faster travel, and you are in the present.
Sure Tony and Gordon had their moments of hubris, ignoring expert advice re transitional controls in the EU as an example and actions of our European partners, but to lay it all on them is silly and lazy. And this is not looking at non-EU immigration and the Commonwealth specifically, which came in waves and coincided with our transition to a post-Imperial period and is still going strong.
Pull and push factors remain complex, and far beyond the control of just one charismatic PM; in general: more advanced economies will always hoover up more people; ditto for global connections and service-oriented output.
The 'problem' isn't 'letting people in' but ensuring inequality is minimised, integration efforts are supported and the benefits of immigration to the country aren't left to trickle down glacially, from one class to the next. Something we've been singularly terrible at, in systematic terms, and a major downside of Thatcherism; Tony took it on, but didn't finish and got sidetracked by Iraq and his flirtation with Bush. Then the post-crash climate took over.
Hi Tefal,
Just bobbed on very briefly and noticed this.
I've gone scanning through and got fed up. However, if you Youtube his Mother of All Talk shows for 29th August 2016 its the main topic. Again, media don't seem to be reporting it but there was a lot on it.
Will be catching up tomorrow
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A quick Wolfram Alpha of UK population or an ONS search for immigration will show a very marked increase in the late 90s that continues to this day. I think the population has grown about 4 million since 1997 from memory.
That's just the official numbers. Some unofficial estimates of the population (based on food consumption) put the total population about 10 million higher than the official number.
