PlayStation 4 Pro in-bound

2StepSteve · 9 Sep 2016 at 14:34

robfosters said:
is your PS4 made of gold?

I told myself I wouldn't start doing this, but I've already started looking at 4K HDR TVs. Anyone have any recommendations?

Soulja · 9 Sep 2016 at 14:35

robfosters said:
is your PS4 made of gold?

He has the 20th anniversary ps4.

robfosters · 9 Sep 2016 at 14:46

Soulja said:
He has the 20th anniversary ps4.

How much is that worth then?

Aretak · 9 Sep 2016 at 15:02

robfosters said:
How much is that worth then?

Brand new ones typically sell for around £800-1000 on eBay. Don't know about used.

antijoke · 9 Sep 2016 at 15:12

robfosters said:
How much is that worth then?

Aretak said:
Brand new ones typically sell for around £800-1000 on eBay. Don't know about used.

I don't think any do actually sell for that price to be honest, there are ones on there at those prices that I swear were on there at that price when they first came out.

I was only really being stupid with the selling it to get both, I could go to GAME and get £500 for it tomorrow, selling private? God knows what people would pay in all honesty.

I think they maybe one of those things that you just sit on for years and it MIGHT increase and sell for something then but who knows, apart from die hards in 10+ years time who will want (or frankly care) about an old Ps4 that is the same color as the original PS.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

sHo0sH · 9 Sep 2016 at 15:14

2StepSteve said:
I told myself I wouldn't start doing this, but I've already started looking at 4K HDR TVs. Anyone have any recommendations?

LG OLED 55E6V

To quote Arnold Schwarzenegger - "Why would you invest in Blockbuster, when Netflix is already out?"

(OLED vs LED)

mid_gen · 9 Sep 2016 at 15:29

I'd really like a HDR 1080p OLED but it seems HDR is only coming with 4k sets sadly.

Guess I'm waiting another couple of years for my TV upgrade :'(

MOOGLEYS · 9 Sep 2016 at 15:36

2StepSteve said:
I told myself I wouldn't start doing this, but I've already started looking at 4K HDR TVs. Anyone have any recommendations?

The samsung ks7000 is a good LCD tv. Has UHD Premium and HDR-10 everything needed for PS Pro to display at its best.

Craterloads · 9 Sep 2016 at 15:54

B1gbeard said:
The negativity surrounding this announcement has to be a wind up?

It's a £350 box that makes games look amazing on a 4k TV (according to people who have actually seen it) and better on a 1080p screen. What is there to be negative about?

If you stick a UHD player in the price goes up right?

The conference did them no favours, it was bland and unassured whilst the format not being suitable to display the benefits.

You're right though at £350 it's incredible value, and I would hazard a guess once people start getting these into their homes the negativity surrounding the console will disappear.

As for TVs looks like LGs oled TVs are not very good for gaming due to the insane input lag. From everything I have read Samsung right now in the 4K / HDR range has the lowest input lag. Ks7000 & ks8000 are highly recommended.

ic1male · 9 Sep 2016 at 16:23

So what do you guys think about this - if a game developer goes back to an old game and adds some 4K+HDR and/or extra 1080p goodies, would you be willing to pay for that patch (as a form of DLC?)

Not sure whether that is what is being hinted at in this article by Kotaku or what.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/09/09/when-asked-if-4k-hdr-game-patches-cost-money-sony-said-it-depends

2StepSteve · 9 Sep 2016 at 16:36

Craterloads said:
As for TVs looks like LGs oled TVs are not very good for gaming due to the insane input lag. From everything I have read Samsung right now in the 4K / HDR range has the lowest input lag. Ks7000 & ks8000 are highly recommended.

Yes, also been looking at the LGs OLED input lag, looking at 34ms vs the KS700's 21ms. It's not ideal, especially for FPS multiplayer.

Warbie · 9 Sep 2016 at 16:46

34ms is not too bad - whether the improved pq makes up for it is entirely subjective over a fast led. As is 4k + HDR @30fps vs 1080p @60fps. It it turns out as that clear cut i'd likely go for the latter, regardless of panel.

Speaking of dream gaming panels, the SAMSUNG UE78KS9500 has to be the daddy at the moment, despite being a lowly led!

antijoke · 9 Sep 2016 at 16:50

Aren't those input lag times based on non HDR modes?

Most of those times go out the window when HDR is on.

Warbie · 9 Sep 2016 at 16:57

anticonscience said:
Aren't those input lag times based on non HDR modes?

Most of those times go out the window when HDR is on.

Yeah. From what I read at hdtvtest, only Panasonic and Philips currently have gaming HDR modes. LG oleds jump to 50+ ms with HDR which would be a deal breaker for me. I'd rather play at 1080p with the other benefits.

Matt Van Dam · 9 Sep 2016 at 17:03

B1gbeard said:
The negativity surrounding this announcement has to be a wind up?

It's a £350 box that makes games look amazing on a 4k TV (according to people who have actually seen it) and better on a 1080p screen. What is there to be negative about?

If you stick a UHD player in the price goes up right?

You're on a PC component forum. You know very well you can build a gaming PC that would smash PS4Pro for the same price.

Thats why everyone is underwhelmed. It's a premature update to the console that's already lagging too far behind the master-race.

At least XBox One S is honest about what it is... the same gaming hardware but also providing a 4K Media Hub, some welcome redesign to the controller, a free AAA game (FIFA 17) and (arguably) looks far nicer than the PS4 or it's Slim/Pro versions.

I was very much on the brink of getting a PS4 for much of this generation, and was waiting for a slim variant. Now, I'm about as put off as can be.

Time to re-join the master race methinks.

cyclonus10 · 9 Sep 2016 at 17:04

anticonscience said:
Does your TV support HDR?

robfosters said:
No but it will still be 4K and I can buy a new HDR TV if it really warrants it.

anticonscience said:
Too bad, reviews looked good and all.

Can it be updated?

robfosters said:
Doubt it very much. It's a lovely TV but the replacement K series has HDR and that's a reasonable price.

http://www.richersounds.com/product/tv---all/samsung/ue49ku6400/sams-ue49ku6400

davewhite04 said:
Firmware updates to existing TVs can enable HDR, it depends how greedy the manufacturers are, I know Samsung were looking into bringing out a HDR firmware update for their latest models before HDR came as standard.

Well, i read about this possible HDR update and stumbled on this
https://www.avforums.com/threads/samsung-ue-ju6400-ju6500-4k-range-owners-thread.1953353/page-16

and then found this http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...amsung-sony-supporting-hdr-all-2015-tv-s.html

I am running FW 1460 btw.

8-bit panel, not 10-bit but its HDR.

Watched the Exodus clip from here http://hdrsamples.com/exodus-4k-uhd-hdr-sample-footage/ and it looks superb.

Barely had my PS4 a couple of months and now i will have to sell it and upgrade.

B1gbeard · 9 Sep 2016 at 17:32

Matt Van Dam said:
You're on a PC component forum. You know very well you can build a gaming PC that would smash PS4Pro for the same price.

Thats why everyone is underwhelmed. It's a premature update to the console that's already lagging too far behind the master-race.

At least XBox One S is honest about what it is... the same gaming hardware but also providing a 4K Media Hub, some welcome redesign to the controller, a free AAA game (FIFA 17) and (arguably) looks far nicer than the PS4 or it's Slim/Pro versions.

I was very much on the brink of getting a PS4 for much of this generation, and was waiting for a slim variant. Now, I'm about as put off as can be.

Time to re-join the master race methinks.

A PC to smash the PS4 Pro for £350? OK.

MOOGLEYS · 9 Sep 2016 at 17:36

Matt Van Dam said:
You're on a PC component forum. You know very well you can build a gaming PC that would smash PS4Pro for the same price.

Thats why everyone is underwhelmed. It's a premature update to the console that's already lagging too far behind the master-race.

At least XBox One S is honest about what it is... the same gaming hardware but also providing a 4K Media Hub, some welcome redesign to the controller, a free AAA game (FIFA 17) and (arguably) looks far nicer than the PS4 or it's Slim/Pro versions.

I was very much on the brink of getting a PS4 for much of this generation, and was waiting for a slim variant. Now, I'm about as put off as can be.

Time to re-join the master race methinks.

Tbh who really cares.

Digital X · 9 Sep 2016 at 17:37

Some people like only PC's, some only Consoles, and some only like both, it's the way it is. I happen to like both. Both have there pro's and cons.

I did expect the price to be nearer £500, but that £349 has wow'd me.

Diddums · 9 Sep 2016 at 17:43

Matt Van Dam said:
You're on a PC component forum. You know very well you can build a gaming PC that would smash PS4Pro for the same price.

Thats why everyone is underwhelmed. It's a premature update to the console that's already lagging too far behind the master-race.

At least XBox One S is honest about what it is... the same gaming hardware but also providing a 4K Media Hub, some welcome redesign to the controller, a free AAA game (FIFA 17) and (arguably) looks far nicer than the PS4 or it's Slim/Pro versions.

I was very much on the brink of getting a PS4 for much of this generation, and was waiting for a slim variant. Now, I'm about as put off as can be.

Time to re-join the master race methinks.

Kthnxbai.

I personally am not bothered at all. I don't feel short changed, I don't think it'll impact online performance enough to make me care and offers no in-game advantages other than "oooooh, purdy". Whatever. Maybe I'll buy one later on, but my ps4 is still ticking along just fine.