The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

Stuff like this makes you feel urself like a piece of ****, and its well documented that partners of people who suffer the main two types of illness (BPD and Bipolar) end up taking on the same emotions over time, so two of you end up feeling mental.
I cannot express how well this rings true for me. I definitely feel like her issues have spread to me to some extent. I was a very level headed, strong minded, focused, and independent person when I first met her. In the last year, my career progression has been put on pause while I poured all my energy into our relationship, trying to seek happiness that always seemed ever so slightly out of reach.

Towards the end of the relationship, I occasionally noticed myself being tempted to give her the random cold shoulder treatment back, because I realised that if I didn't speak to her for a whole afternoon, she would call me up and respond with lots of affection to "win me back". Really felt like I'd discovered Kryptonite, and with some careful fine tuning and a few mind tricks, I could probably control her like a puppet. I never even thought I was capable of doing such a thing and felt ashamed for considering it, but then it suddenly started to dawn on me... she was doing precisely that to me, pretty much the entire time we were together.

She's also 100% in denial (externally anyway) that she has any mental disorder, and just makes out that her "constant fear of an anxiety attack" is to blame for everything. She described it as feeling light-headed and dizzy in certain social situations. I've experienced it very briefly myself when highly stressed and sure it's not nice. But still, that doesn't account for the other 80% of her toxic behaviour.

Now that me and her have been apart for over a month and things are slowly healing, I've been feeling depressed a lot, staying in bed most of the day for the last few weeks, refusing to go into work and unwilling to face the world. On top of that, I completed on a new house purchase 3 weeks ago and should be hugely excited about picking furniture and moving in etc, but instead I feel hardly any emotion towards it at all because it's been overshadowed by this dark cloud.

I feel like I'm actually faring worse right now than she is, but then again this isn't her first time... I guess she's better practiced at break-up recovery than me.

A few weeks ago, I was having a restless night, and ended up staying up all night deeply analysing all of her actions over the year we were together, and trying to get my head around the fact I could never get to the bottom of our relationship problems. Suddenly, I had a eureka moment. I basically deduced that she had to be broken in her head, but I also figured out the most likely point in her life that triggered her to become this way. The next morning I was compelled to tell her, because maybe just maybe she'd say "oh my god you're right!" and maybe I had found the path to fixing everything and patch things up. When I reached out to her and explained, she was pretty stunned and admitted most of what I worked out was in fact true, then we proceeded to have what was probably the most open and heartfelt conversation we ever had since we first met. It just seemed tragic that we only got to this point now rather than when we were still a couple.

In a nutshell, I worked out that her first long term relationship and awful treatment by her boyfriend at the time is what broke her and destroyed her self esteem. She vowed to never feel that low again, and as a result has been taking it out on every boyfriend she's had since. It's also what made her struggle to truly open up to people and trust them with her feelings. I was surprised to hear her agree to what I 'figured out' that night, but looking back now, I think she was just happy to be handed an excuse to legitimise her awful treatment of me and her last couple of boyfriends. At the end of the day, she's still a grown adult, experienced in relationships, therefore she is ultimately responsible for her own actions and behaviour, and can't keep blaming it on something that happened to her 4-5 years ago.

Anyway, everything was going alright after that long chat, things were calm and civil between us as "exes" for a while, until one day she started playing cold shoulder and emotional guilt games with me again. By this point I realised she was truly a lost cause, and I had finally lost it, gave up being Mr calm nice guy, and came at her with some very overdue cutting and sarcastic remarks, which she obviously didn't take very well. Promptly after that, we blocked each other on virtually everything, then she also went and deleted all my friends on Facebook.

I wish that was the end of it, but on a couple of occasions recently, I came across little pieces of information from our past that was proof of how nasty/hypocritical/dishonest/toxic she was, concerning big issues we regularly rowed about. Rather than keeping these to myself as I should have done, I sent her emails detailing what I found out, showing in plain black & white how despicable her actions were. She obviously wasn't able to say much to defend her actions but had a go anyway, along with "and don't message me again".

This wasn't productive or healthy at all, but for some reason I really wanted her to know that I found her out for what she really was (poison), and in some weird way hope I'd make her snap out of it and realise that she was indeed broken and required help... in turn perhaps that would give me some kind of sense of closure that I'm still seeking for some reason.

I should've known better though, she went straight into playing the "victim of a nasty ex boyfriend" role in attempt to obfuscate the irrefutable evidence of her misdeeds. The only alternative from her perspective is to own up to her behaviour, which will never happen. It turns out, she did the exact same thing when she finished with her previous boyfriend too.

My family and friends say they are worried about my well being, and keep telling me to "just drop it", but for some reason I'm finding it really difficult to avoid getting sucked back in. I know I just need to just rise above it all and forget about her (hence why I'm venting on this thread, strangely feels therapeutic). The initial deep sadness has recently evolved to bitterness and anger, and I'm just trying to kick my life back into gear and get on with my career and new house so I can move on and think positive once and for all.


Bottom line: I need to get on with my life and forget her as soon as possible. She's broken and doesn't want to be helped, and despite the fact that a part of me still misses being with her, I've grown to hate her for denying any responsibility for what she's done to me (a wishy washy "sorry I made you feel unloved" is all I ever got). That's what I think bothers me the most. :mad:
 
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My family and friends say they are worried about my well being, and keep telling me to "just drop it", but for some reason I'm finding it really difficult to avoid getting sucked back in. I know I just need to just rise above it all and forget about her (hence why I'm venting on this thread, strangely feels therapeutic). The initial deep sadness has recently evolved to bitterness and anger, and I'm just trying to kick my life back into gear and get on with my career and new house so I can move on and think positive once and for all.

Bottom line: I need to get on with my life and forget her as soon as possible. She's broken and doesn't want to be helped, and despite the fact that a part of me still misses being with her, I've grown to hate her for denying any responsibility for what she's done to me (a wishy washy "sorry I made you feel unloved" is all I ever got). That's what I think bothers me the most. :mad:

You have been damaged and ground down by an abusive partner. You are probably suffering from anxiety and depression. It happens to many people, and the only way to heal is to sever all ties and move forward with your life. Every time your mind strays to your ex, you need to pull it away and think of something else. Go to the gym, spend time with friends, find new hobbies, furnish that new house.

You will heal eventually, and meet someone who doesn't need to pull you down to make themselves feel better, but in the meantime you have to cut off the ex in every way. Living well is the best revenge, and that means getting over all the damage she's done to you and bringing yourself back to life.
 
My partner is bipolar, we deal with it...

we are due to get married.

Told me yesterday she want's me to change an awful lot before the end of the month or she will leave me.

Not sure if a low patch or actual feelings..

Talk about a hard hand of cards to read...

Love her to bits but not sure if I can go the distance with her after this.

oh balls.

Don't.

I'm serious it will just end in tears in the long run. I'll TLDR it for you, you change force yourself to say give up things you like or change minor things you maybe just do that aren't a big deal in grand scheme of things. She constantly gives you crapp about it. You begin to feel attacked and upsupported, you become resentful and isolate yourself away from it (as any normal person would being constantly villified), the reltionship begins to turn sour and bitter. You break up in a messy divorce.

Yeah I could flesh that out a lot more but as I said.... just a quick TLDR.

What exactly is it she wants you to change?
 
Meeting the most beautiful indian girl this weekend.

Im scared, shes a 8 or 9 on the hot scale, i'll have to see where she drops herself on the crazy scale :D
 
seems like I get to spend christmas at my GFs mothers house.... her mum seems to have rented a house with no furniture for us to sleep there instead of getting the train home....

me the gf ,a 6 year old and a baby

ill be surrounded by german speaking people in a house I've never been to with people I've never met sounds like fun right? oh and I barely read even basic german never mind speak it.
 
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seems like I get to spend christmas at my GFs mothers house.... her mum seems to have rented a house with no furniture for us to sleep there....

me the gf a 6 year old a a baby

ill be surrounded by german speaking people in a house I've never been to with people I've never met sounds like fun right? oh and I barely read even basic german never mind speak it.

Sounds like a good night!

You'll be fine!
 
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His advice, his attitude, his philosophy and approach to helping peoples relationship issues are astoundingly pertinant.

If you are suffering in life, or in a relationship, or just want to improve yourself and your own life.... give this guy a try... His videos and life advice applies to both men and women, and he really lays down accurate, life changing, and logical information and perspectives.

Nothing to lose! Might be the best videos you ever watch if it helps you become a better, stronger person!!!
 
^^ I bet he makes money from advertising though ;)

Oh of course, but who wouldnt? its his whole career.

He has so many vids, but the best bit is, that most of them he reads examples of emails from people who have desperately needed help.

Im the last person that would ever fall for any sort of internet scam BS, as most on this website would be also.

But all I can say is trust me, check a few of his vids out which are relevant to your own concerns in your own life (if you have any!) and you will not be sorry.

:)
 
Oh of course, but who wouldnt? its his whole career.

He has so many vids, but the best bit is, that most of them he reads examples of emails from people who have desperately needed help.

Im the last person that would ever fall for any sort of internet scam BS, as most on this website would be also.

But all I can say is trust me, check a few of his vids out which are relevant to your own concerns in your own life (if you have any!) and you will not be sorry.

:)

I watched one, it's good.

thanks for the link!
 
I think we are going to GFs parents but eating out. Never have eaten out on Xmas before.
Then for next couple of days heading to mine. Which is always good fun.
Finally go to Edinburgh for new year with gf and her uni friends. Never done that before.
 
Christmas is for family :) Enjoy the time, there are time for cuddles another day

yes we have our own family it would be our first christmas as a family.
last year her daughter was at the dads for 2 weeks.
this year we are all together and have a baby.

it's not actually christmas day we will be at the mums but the 24th.
shes on about staying there until late her mum wants to stay awake talking and playing boardgames until 4am :confused:

my GF keeps going on about sleeping in a stupid empty house that her mum seems insistent on renting for one day. which I think is a really dumb idea when we have a baby. (it's only one hour away on the train to our actual apartment...)

it would also mean on the actual Christmas day neither of us would be fit, we would have nothing prepared and it would just be a really **** day with us all being too tired to be a family and enjoy our time together.

Is it really so unreasonable that. I don't mind spending the 24th at her mums for the whole day but I want to go home and sleep in our own bed and be fit for the next day? so we can enjoy Christmas as a family on our own.

seems like such a stupid idea to be awake for so long on the 24th and then sleep in an empty house that might not even have heating or electricity when we have a baby. then travel home at midday or whatever on Christmas day both being tired as **** and not being able to enjoy our time with the kids or each other.
 
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My partner is bipolar, we deal with it...

we are due to get married.

Told me yesterday she want's me to change an awful lot before the end of the month or she will leave me.

Not sure if a low patch or actual feelings..

Talk about a hard hand of cards to read...

Love her to bits but not sure if I can go the distance with her after this.

oh balls.

My advice is: Do not get married! Bipolar is a massive red flag! The sudden highs and lows of the rollercoaster ride will kill you.

The second massive red flag is: She wants to make you beta before the marriage and then you get married on her terms aka you will be beta, when she says jump, you will say how high. Then when she is on a high and wants some extreme excitement, she will find an Alpha male for it (I had such a bipolar girl come to me for that a few years ago, I rode her until the wheels fell off, but even on my terms the rollercoaster ride is not an easy one), when you find out about that, you will have to forgive her if you agree to be beta before you marry.

TLDR; DON'T DO IT!
 
seems like such a stupid idea to be awake for so long on the 24th and then sleep in an empty house that might not even have heating or electricity when we have a baby. then travel home at midday or whatever on Christmas day both being tired as **** and not being able to enjoy our time with the kids or each other.

She's not from the UK? Then Christmas *is* staying up late on the 24th with family, the 25th means very little to her.

Your attitude to christmas day is as alien to her as someone making out boxing day to be the special time to you.
 
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