It's a way of increasing the number of people driving whilst disqualified, for sure.
Only 10 years?
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It's a way of increasing the number of people driving whilst disqualified, for sure.
He didn't make a mistake, he deliberately chose to ignore the law AND the declaration he signed an hour earlier.
Indeed, a mistake implies an accident. There was nothing accidental about this.
The current punishment has been largely ineffective at stopping people using their mobiles when driving. They're upping the penalty now to an automatic 6points and £200 I think it was.
It'll probably take treating it like drink driving (and I think studies show that using your phone is comparable in terms of lessened driving ability) before the general public start treating it as a anti-social behaviour.
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Cant the latest phones take reliable voice commands
Hardly worth changing, it needs to be instant ban and £2k or higher.
No, because he did not set off to specifically kill these 4 people.
As tragic as it is, it is not the same as murder.
If the driver of the recent Croydon tram crash is found careless/negligent - did set out to murder 7 people ?
Yes, if I go outside not planning to kill & shoot a gun that the bullet hits a person out of my sight I had no intent to kill, should I not be jailed as long???
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It's still trundling through the courts at the moment, should be a judgement whether a prosecution will be brought against him some time soon.
He was also subsequently prosecuted for driving again whilst banned after the crash. Came across that the guy just didn't give a **** about other people.
That would be classed as an accident, if you genuinely had no intention to kill, and fire 1 bullet in a legal area - Hunting accident etc.
If you were walking down the high-street randomly spraying away - then you will be locked up indefinately.
You example is not relevant
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Exactly. Over 200 people were killed here in France last year by hunters. Not one of them was convicted for it.
That seems pretty excessive, do you have sauce?
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Should have got 10 years per death imo, scumbag. The UK is a joke. Would he have got 10 years in the states? Not a chance. The law in this pathetic country is far too lenient, no shock though tbh with the crap government the UK has.
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I see this all the time on motorways (do a fair amount of driving!). People on their phones at 60mph in the central lane, really really shocking that they are oblivious to people under and overtaking them.
It really needs to be clamped down on harder, it should be a ban.
It really needs to be clamped down on harder, it should be a ban.
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As tragic as this is, natural technological evolution will mitigate these cases.
More and more cars are fitted with auto brake emergency systems, and perhaps when they make their way into 44tonne trucks, things will start to change.
You will not change human behaviour, regardless of what people think, so better to wait for the technology to come in to help humans in their braindead moments.
More and more cars are fitted with auto brake emergency systems, and perhaps when they make their way into 44tonne trucks, things will start to change.
You will not change human behaviour, regardless of what people think, so better to wait for the technology to come in to help humans in their braindead moments.
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Using your phone at the wheel is a conscious decision which you make knowing it impairs your ability to drive. It is totally different to a lapse of concentration which happens to us all, albeit 99% of the time with only minor consequences. Once you have made that decision you should be held fully accountable for your actions, it is not an accident. It should have been a manslaughter charge with the possibility for a life sentence.
The video is sickening and deeply disturbing, as are some of the other facts around the case. Other members of the family including a young child were in the car behind and witnessed the whole thing.
The penalties for using a mobile while driving need to be substantially increased. An instant ban is the only way I see people taking it seriously, points and fine are not enough deterrent when the chances of being caught are so low. I probably see 1 in 10 drivers using a phone at the wheel when I'm cycling and that's conservative.
The video is sickening and deeply disturbing, as are some of the other facts around the case. Other members of the family including a young child were in the car behind and witnessed the whole thing.
The penalties for using a mobile while driving need to be substantially increased. An instant ban is the only way I see people taking it seriously, points and fine are not enough deterrent when the chances of being caught are so low. I probably see 1 in 10 drivers using a phone at the wheel when I'm cycling and that's conservative.
No murderous intent = no murder charge.
Death by dangerous driving has a maximum sentence of 14 yrs.
Ah yes the american system with comedy sentences of hundreds of years among many other failings
Massive jail terms do not discourage crime and leave the taxpayer with a gigantic bill to provide food and housing for people who are now a guaranteed burden to the state. Not to mention that anyone getting out after a long sentence with no proper rehabilitation is likely to be unemployable which leads back to jail again.
I'm quite sure "throw away the key" attitudes think no further than the idea that that person will be out of sight out of mind and no problem ever again.
Death by dangerous driving has a maximum sentence of 14 yrs.
Ah yes the american system with comedy sentences of hundreds of years among many other failings
Massive jail terms do not discourage crime and leave the taxpayer with a gigantic bill to provide food and housing for people who are now a guaranteed burden to the state. Not to mention that anyone getting out after a long sentence with no proper rehabilitation is likely to be unemployable which leads back to jail again.
I'm quite sure "throw away the key" attitudes think no further than the idea that that person will be out of sight out of mind and no problem ever again.