PlayStation 4 Pro in-bound

Do you count the frames really quickly in your head? Or do you have some FPS monitor software going? Why are DF etc saying that some run worse?

Just asking. Maybe placebo :) maybe not.
 
DF say things run worse because their little graph tells them so. But they never, ever seem to comment on whether it's actually noticeable in real world play.
 
I only tend to notice when things get a bit choppy. Like playing Dark Souls' Blighttown on PS3.

Both XB1 and PS4 look pretty much the same to me on my plasma 8 feet a way. So I am a bit sceptical about this mid-term refresh. I paid £350 for a PS4 - which was clearly a huge leap from the PS3. For me to pay another £350 will I see the same kind of leap? From what I am reading it is the HDR/4K leap which is where the difference really is. I only have a 1080p panel so will the difference really be that noticeable to me?
 
I only tend to notice when things get a bit choppy. Like playing Dark Souls' Blighttown on PS3.

Both XB1 and PS4 look pretty much the same to me on my plasma 8 feet a way. So I am a bit sceptical about this mid-term refresh. I paid £350 for a PS4 - which was clearly a huge leap from the PS3. For me to pay another £350 will I see the same kind of leap? From what I am reading it is the HDR/4K leap which is where the difference really is. I only have a 1080p panel so will the difference really be that noticeable to me?

An example would be Infamous series. You can play @ 60fps or 30fps with increased resolution. So yes you will see a difference. Bloodbourne looks the same but seems much smoother to me too. Personally I would upgrade.
 
To be truthful I am not interested in going back and playing InFamous again, even with the graphics turned up a bit. I was hoping for more from Battlefield 1 other than 'it runs more smoothly'..

I think what will really sell it to me is whether newer games like Horizon: Zero Dawn will show a night and day difference. If they do then I might just have to bite.
 
To be truthful I am not interested in going back and playing InFamous again, even with the graphics turned up a bit. I was hoping for more from Battlefield 1 other than 'it runs more smoothly'..

I think what will really sell it to me is whether newer games like Horizon: Zero Dawn will show a night and day difference. If they do then I might just have to bite.

The graphics won't improve on a 1080p you'll just get 60fps. If you're not interested in increasing fps then you'd be wasting your money.
 
Playing Infamous on my standard PS4 made me want to jump to the Pro... It's the worst running game I've ever seen on a console. What's the use of a 30fps limit if it can't even keep that in many scenarios? Honestly, it feels like 15 fps in bigger fights.

Also, I love the exclusives and how they run (excluding Infamous) but the console itself is a bit of a miss on the technical level. Build quality is just so-so, the drive is loud, the PSN is really slow and dl speeds are atrocious. It's a vastly different sensation than when I unboxed my PS3.

Yesterday, I tried to create a Japanese PSN account and was getting multiple server errors or had to wait minutes between screens...
 
Playing Infamous on my standard PS4 made me want to jump to the Pro... It's the worst running game I've ever seen on a console. What's the use of a 30fps limit if it can't even keep that in many scenarios? Honestly, it feels like 15 fps in bigger fights.

Also, I love the exclusives and how they run (excluding Infamous) but the console itself is a bit of a miss on the technical level. Build quality is just so-so, the drive is loud, the PSN is really slow and dl speeds are atrocious. It's a vastly different sensation than when I unboxed my PS3.

Yesterday, I tried to create a Japanese PSN account and was getting multiple server errors or had to wait minutes between screens...

PSN was down for maintenance yesterday. I've noticed a serious speed increase in PSN since getting a Pro. My downloads absolutely fly off.
 
Playing Infamous on my standard PS4 made me want to jump to the Pro... It's the worst running game I've ever seen on a console. What's the use of a 30fps limit if it can't even keep that in many scenarios? Honestly, it feels like 15 fps in bigger fights.

Also, I love the exclusives and how they run (excluding Infamous) but the console itself is a bit of a miss on the technical level. Build quality is just so-so, the drive is loud, the PSN is really slow and dl speeds are atrocious.

Can't agree with you at all.
Infamous ran well on my PS⁴ and while looking better on Pro, I don't get the feeling it's running any better (that's just me playing without altering any settings in game).

I notice no sound from the system (fan/hd etc.) in use and my download speeds are 20mins per 10gig via wireless.

My 2 (big) problems with the Pro is the unforgivable lack of HDR pass through on my PSVR and I suffer the black screen issue to the extent that if no fix is incoming in the next few weeks, I'll be done with the Pro and it will go back.
 
Can't agree with you at all.
Infamous ran well on my PS⁴ and while looking better on Pro, I don't get the feeling it's running any better (that's just me playing without altering any settings in game).

I notice no sound from the system (fan/hd etc.) in use and my download speeds are 20mins per 10gig via wireless.

My 2 (big) problems with the Pro is the unforgivable lack of HDR pass through on my PSVR and I suffer the black screen issue to the extent that if no fix is incoming in the next few weeks, I'll be done with the Pro and it will go back.


Then maybe there's something wrong on my side? Though I've read quite a lot of people report slowdowns in Infamous. I spent the last few years mostly on PC gaming and I'm pretty susceptible to framerate fluctuations. There are definitely major slowdowns. Uncharted 4, for example, is pretty consistent fps-wise.

I was talking about the disc drive but that's not a major issue since it spins down after a while.

However, wireless is absolute crap for me. I don't know how to fix it. Yesterday, download speed test showed around 750kbps (I checked briefly today and it's now 250kbps;/). Upload is constantly failing. Normally, my connection is pretty fast... The downloads are faster when the PS4 ia in rest mode.
 
Grabbing myself a pro on payday. With final fantasy xv. I really can't wait. I hear very good things about xv. And it sounds great ! Not much hype on these forums though...
 
Playing Infamous on my standard PS4 made me want to jump to the Pro... It's the worst running game I've ever seen on a console. What's the use of a 30fps limit if it can't even keep that in many scenarios? Honestly, it feels like 15 fps in bigger fights.

Also, I love the exclusives and how they run (excluding Infamous) but the console itself is a bit of a miss on the technical level. Build quality is just so-so, the drive is loud, the PSN is really slow and dl speeds are atrocious. It's a vastly different sensation than when I unboxed my PS3.

Yesterday, I tried to create a Japanese PSN account and was getting multiple server errors or had to wait minutes between screens...

Not slow on my PS4 on wifi


*edit, realised your talking about the Pro.
 
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