The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

Heavy stuff traffic, sorry to hear that.

I don't think anyone is denying that being desperate is bad, it is, overly keen too. I think what is coming across from some (looking at tonso lol) it's that you have to be this no feelings, always tough etc etc guy. So so many cannot be that. You can change, but not that much. It may not even be what is Intended, but it does come across like that.

You shouldnt always be available, you should have your own hobbies, you shouldn't bend over backwards all the time. But don't have to be some dominant, alpha.

Both excessive repression and liberation of your emotions is dire in the extreme. It doesn't work in relationships, and it doesn't work in groups. Find a balance. Be human. Don't listen to sexual psychology lessons from dude-bros on internet forums, and you'll do alright! :p
 
Mrs Tosno, my "Russian internet bride" still hasn't ran off with all my money, gold or took my wow account with my 110 level Paladin with legendary gear that can one shot epic tier bosses. She is having baby number 2, due in May, I expect another boy due to how Alpha I am, I will name him Donald after The Donald. Betas wish you could get on my Nikola Tesla MGTOW level.
 
Mrs Tosno, my "Russian internet bride" still hasn't ran off with all my money, gold or took my wow account with my 110 level Paladin with legendary gear that can one shot epic tier bosses. She is having baby number 2, due in May, I expect another boy due to how Alpha I am, I will name him Donald after The Donald. Betas wish you could get on my Nikola Tesla MGTOW level.

I don't think creative fiction counts as a relationship, but do carry on! It's getting good! :D
 
Not posted anything about myself in this thread for a while. Could do with some opinions/experiences.

Met a great girl through a mutual friend few weeks back. We really got on, great conversations we both initiated. Great first date ended with a kiss. Second date on Sunday I thought was going good initially, though I sensed a slight reluctance towards the end (we'd spent all day together, instead of just lunch as planned, which I wasn't expecting). She was even happy to meet a few of my friends the Sunday evening, which I invited her to, but not forced). She confirmed yesterday I came on a bit too keen and didn't think it would work out between us romantically because of the apparent pressure, despite agreeing I was the perfect gentlemen, really caring, etc, and great company (nice guy syndrome).

I won't deny it, I got carried away because it had been a while since I'd met someone I had chemistry with (her apparently not as much) and got excited. If I'd known or been told, I would deffo have backed off.

We are probably going to cross paths again due to our mutual friend/interests. We've agreed to give ourselves space until latter naturally happens. I'm right in thinking that even with space for a few weeks, I've pretty much blown in and should just forget about her? You lot are crue....I mean honest, so no doubt you'll put it bluntly.

Friend zoned.

Back off, there is no point persuing her now. Sometimes in life the harder we chase the further away things get.

I'd just try your best to forget about it and move on. If it happens again down the line so be it, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
Mrs Tosno, my "Russian internet bride" still hasn't ran off with all my money, gold or took my wow account with my 110 level Paladin with legendary gear that can one shot epic tier bosses. She is having baby number 2, due in May, I expect another boy due to how Alpha I am, I will name him Donald after The Donald. Betas wish you could get on my Nikola Tesla MGTOW level.

You don't seem to understand that different people want different things. I know quite a few Russian girls (even dated one for a few weeks!) and most of them are genuinely looking for a normal relationship, albeit usually with "alpha" types. They are all exceptionally beautiful and I don't think I'd be exaggerating by saying that almost any guy who sees them wants to sleep with them.

But anything more than that? Personally, even if I was single, I'd run a mile. I find them humorless, materialistic, overly direct and incredibly boring to talk to. You'd doubtless say your wife is none of these things because to you, she isn't. You're an alpha male, and she's an alpha female, so you work well together, which is great. There's probably loads of guys out there who'd get on great with her, and equally loads who wouldn't.

If I took on your personality, I'd either end up with nobody (because they'd see that for me, it was all an act) or somebody I found attractive but didn't actually like. As it is, I'm probably a lot more "beta" than "alpha" - I have my own interests and don't go frantically chasing after women but equally if I like someone, I'll happily spend ages messaging back and forth with them, see them several times a week etc. And that works just as well for me as your way of approaching women has worked for you.
 
There is no Mrs Traffic Master right now, primarily because my head cannot deal with any form of relationship at the moment.

I split from a girl about three years ago, she was asking about marriage etc... I had been suffering from crippling depression out of the blue, and said I didnt want to get married.

At this point I think she thought that I was no good for anything, and two weeks later she ***ed some random guy, and subsequently moved countries to be with him after just a few weeks of knowing him. Fast forward 2.5 years and she is now married to the a-hole and living the perfect life in every respect.

This is not to say I have not learnt from my mistakes, but if I am honest with myself and the forums, I do not think I have really got over the situation of being as low as a human can get, and the very person who was asking me if I wanted to get married, leaving me for some hideous looking bloke at the drop of a hat when she did not get the answer she wanted.

Did/do you know this guy? If not, is he an A-hole because she chose him over you?

I've never quite understood the focus of anger at the 3rd party in these cases, when it is possible they didn't even know the person being cheated on existed.

I can certainly understand how someone choosing someone you perceive to be below you looks-wise can sting, but then you are missing the fact that maybe they are actually better suited for eachother overall, and that looks clearly aren't as important.
 
There's quite a few things come above looks when women are looking to seriously settle down, there's plenty of men people would consider ugly who've got the token wife. Now there's the quite obvious reason being status or wealth but there's a whole host of others reasons too.

As above there's no reason to keep beating yourself up over it, you're just wasting your emotional energy for no reason other than making yourself feel worse.

At the end of the day there's not many people who really care once the relationship is all said and done, women tend to certainly move on faster and it's much easier for them to do so, just got to remember she's not yours it was just your turn :)
 
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Mrs Tosno, my "Russian internet bride" still hasn't ran off with all my money, gold or took my wow account with my 110 level Paladin with legendary gear that can one shot epic tier bosses. She is having baby number 2, due in May, I expect another boy due to how Alpha I am, I will name him Donald after The Donald. Betas wish you could get on my Nikola Tesla MGTOW level.

Any man who must say, "I am the king" is no true king.
 

I'm about 5 months removed from heartbreak, I'm not looking for meaningful relationships either at the moment - Tinder and one night stands have been a running theme of my past 3.5 months, the first 1.5 months were quiet as I was too hurt and broken to pursue tail, the past 3.5 months have resulted in many many girls dated
 
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You don't seem to understand that different people want different things. I know quite a few Russian girls (even dated one for a few weeks!) and most of them are genuinely looking for a normal relationship, albeit usually with "alpha" types. They are all exceptionally beautiful and I don't think I'd be exaggerating by saying that almost any guy who sees them wants to sleep with them.

But anything more than that? Personally, even if I was single, I'd run a mile. I find them humorless, materialistic, overly direct and incredibly boring to talk to. You'd doubtless say your wife is none of these things because to you, she isn't. You're an alpha male, and she's an alpha female, so you work well together, which is great. There's probably loads of guys out there who'd get on great with her, and equally loads who wouldn't.

If I took on your personality, I'd either end up with nobody (because they'd see that for me, it was all an act) or somebody I found attractive but didn't actually like. As it is, I'm probably a lot more "beta" than "alpha" - I have my own interests and don't go frantically chasing after women but equally if I like someone, I'll happily spend ages messaging back and forth with them, see them several times a week etc. And that works just as well for me as your way of approaching women has worked for you.

I went on a date with one such girl. It doesn't take me long to realise this was not the girl l for me. I think I'd be living in fear for my life every day. Your summation was pretty spot on
 
Did/do you know this guy? If not, is he an A-hole because she chose him over you?

I've never quite understood the focus of anger at the 3rd party in these cases, when it is possible they didn't even know the person being cheated on existed.

I can certainly understand how someone choosing someone you perceive to be below you looks-wise can sting, but then you are missing the fact that maybe they are actually better suited for eachother overall, and that looks clearly aren't as important.

Anyone who asks someone to live with them after a few weeks is an a-hole, of course anyone that follows on from a girl ive dated is an a-hole by default! :p

I dont actually CARE any more, I was not in a position to marry, but despite not caring that much, for some reason it has manifested itself in a behaviour which makes me emotionally check out when things get "serious".

Lord knows what the answer is!

I had a colleague who was very much into me, but I kept my distance from that, which was a shame really, absolutely cracking girl, liked her a hell of a lot, but she hates me now after I went cold !!

Right now Im focusing on getting over the recent death of my dad.
 
Hating on someone's new love. That's not very manly, it's behaviour I'd expect of a woman ;)

If youd seen the geezer youd understand.

Showed a few pics to my girl friends, and they all laughed and said what was I so upset about !!!

Suffice to say not very blessed in the looks dept, which irked me even more.

Hating on someone's new love. That's not very manly, it's behaviour I'd expect of a woman ;)

rofl..

she even said I should go and visit her before she left..

I was like "er no" I dont operate like that, if u go its goodbye.

She went, and tried to keep in touch, I cut it off totally like any self respecting guy would do.

Not my problem she went for the downgrade

Ive a hot 22yr old coming to stay a week soon, not bad for a mid 30's guy.
 
A relationship topic fit for General Discussion - hopefully

should have known

friendzoned - burn on me

summary, 3 ex friends, one married, single male, single female, turns out married cheating with girl, expects everything to be normal, single male overlay sensitive, doesn't agree, we go separate ways

 
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I'd just bail on the whole thing and let them get on with it, the guy clearly doesn't respect relationships so let him screw his own existence up, as for the girl I can understand her feeling guilty but she's not really doing anything wrong.
 
i think i worked out that 2 dudes at a work place fancy some girl that works there but then my eyes glossed over,
is there a TL;DR version ?
 
I can almost guarantee that no one involved in this story went through as much pain as I did trying to read it.
 
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