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*** AMD "Zen" thread (inc AM4/APU discussion) ***

Definitely glad to see the rumours of great pricing holding up. I had been planning to hold onto my 2700k (at 4.7GHz) for at least another intel generation or two since this still holds up well, but the 8 core performance at <£400 is making the upgrade itch seriously strong! I just hope Zen has some overclocking headroom in it.
 
You can preorder and then cancel if actual reviews don't match the expectations, the realm problem would be if 5000 people preorder CPU X and OCUK gets a stock of 1000, you won't know if you got lucky until 2nd. Multithreaded performance seems great but that won't cut it for many games.
 
Definitely glad to see the rumours of great pricing holding up. I had been planning to hold onto my 2700k (at 4.7GHz) for at least another intel generation or two since this still holds up well, but the 8 core performance at <£400 is making the upgrade itch seriously strong! I just hope Zen has some overclocking headroom in it.

This is the big question. Is it realistic that you can get 4.0+ without water cooling and silly voltages. People still want something fast for games that don't utilise more than 4 cores, myself included.
 
Official pricing and conversion (inc VAT) at current exchange rate:

Ryzen 7 1800X: 8C/16T, 3.6 GHz base, 4.0 GHz turbo, 95W, $499 (~£480)
Ryzen 7 1700X: 8C/16T, 3.4 GHz base, 3.8 GHz turbo, 95W, $399 (~385)
Ryzen 7 1700: 8C/16T, 3.0 GHz base, 3.7 GHz turbo, $329 (~317)

OR, an OCUK 5Ghz binned 7700K quad core for £455.00, hmmmmmmm ;)

No wonder they were keen to sell off speed bin 7700k's asap, Ryzen is a much much better buy :)

Kinda feel sorry for those who just bought 6700k's or 7700k's, though it's their own fault as Ryzen has had massive news coverage for many months now.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUndzpdo1I

Not really a fan of linus but he shows some stuff, you can skip past some of the waffle.

Default test the 1800x beats the 6900k comfortably in Cinebench at half the price, 1700 destroys the 6800k while $100 lower (without factoring in cheaper mobo), etc.

What will be most interesting now is overclocking and, he said X chips should overclock better but I'm not convinced, he shows at the end with BF1 comparison the 1700 non X boosting to 3.64Ghz, on a 65W tdp chip... that to me screams awesome potential with overclocking. I think he might mean, the X chips have XFR so might overclock better at stock?


XFR range was barely mentioned by him, he said 100Mhz more but it's unclear if that is the best you can expect on any cooling, or on stock cooling alone?

1700 for the price and potential binning for lower power usage to me is the chip I'd want. The others just seem too expensive to me, and anything less than 8 cores just isn't an upgrade from the 5820k, not really anyway.
 
I think i'll wait for reviews before I order one. Its a bit odd that pre-orders are going live such a long time before reviews isn't it? Seems pretty unusual for hardware to not have reviews up at the time orders go live.
 
Aw man, hoped to hear about the R5 1600/1600X which is what I would get if I upgrade this gen (still deciding on this gen or next). But I'm happy for amd, disrupted the heck out of the 6900k 1000 dollar pricing
 
That's not really the same thing.

Seriously? you just come to troll this thread? why bother man... if your not even interested in buying then why come troll? if you are interested then either wait for reviews for your particular area of interest, or take the gamble, but why come whine about it?

Some people just have to find a negative in every damn thing it seems..
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUndzpdo1I

Not really a fan of linus but he shows some stuff, you can skip past some of the waffle.

Default test the 1800x beats the 6900k comfortably in Cinebench at half the price, 1700 destroys the 6800k while $100 lower (without factoring in cheaper mobo), etc.

What will be most interesting now is overclocking and, he said X chips should overclock better but I'm not convinced, he shows at the end with BF1 comparison the 1700 non X boosting to 3.64Ghz, on a 65W tdp chip... that to me screams awesome potential with overclocking. I think he might mean, the X chips have XFR so might overclock better at stock?


XFR range was barely mentioned by him, he said 100Mhz more but it's unclear if that is the best you can expect on any cooling, or on stock cooling alone?

1700 for the price and potential binning for lower power usage to me is the chip I'd want. The others just seem too expensive to me, and anything less than 8 cores just isn't an upgrade from the 5820k, not really anyway.


lol destroys it was a bf1 single player campaign and few fps quicker :p the price is good for the cpu.we need proper benchmarks stat !
 
is crap overclocking the reason for no reviews till release day?

No, it may overclock badly but it isn't the reason for no reviews. AS the video above, Linus is at an AMD tech day, not in his work place testing a chip or publishing an article. 10 years ago this tech day would have been private, the reviewers would get the info, ask questions to AMD people in person, get to see some demos, take notes then go back test the chip and publish a review for launch day.


In the era of social media, constant leaks and overload of information it isn't viable any more, this information would have been leaked(actually in fact was straight away) had they tried to keep it quiet, so why bother. Almost all launches will go this way from now on because you just can't do the quiet tech day for media thing without people leaking it.
 
I think i'll wait for reviews before I order one. Its a bit odd that pre-orders are going live such a long time before reviews isn't it? Seems pretty unusual for hardware to not have reviews up at the time orders go live.

They handed out samples to the people attending the tech event, and told them go have fun and share what you found, so yeah i expect to see stuff popping up today / tonight / tomorrow etc, you wont have to wait long for gaming benchmarks and whatnot from people who were at the event, ive already seen Goldfries unbox his MSI board and 1800X and promise to put his rig together asap to bench it, oh and they gave him a Noctua cooler and 3000mhz ram to go with it.
 
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