The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

Use the time to get yourself in to far better shape before you get on the dating apps - the women will swoon over your honed 6 pack.

My gym work is going in the right direction. Started going pretty much a year ago as ive always been very overweight to lose weight and tone up. I'm at the lowest weight i've been since I was a young teen (roughly around 12st 7lb) but a lot stronger for it too. Still a long way off where I want to be as the dreaded love handles are refusing to budge but going to stick at it and go 4-5 times a week, maybe throw in a 5-10km outdoor run every so Looooooong way off a 6-pack though, haha!

Reminds me I need to go through my wardrobe and throw away some of my old clothes as they are too big now.
 
They say abs are made in the kitchen, without having someone else to consider when making food and meal plans you're in a much better place to get results.

My food has always been pretty good - granted the past week ive not ate much but am actively trying to turn that around as of now. The ex was very much into healthy and clean eating so wasn't ever an issue. I'll just be keeping it simple for now with poached eggs, chicken breast, various veg, steak occasionally etc etc.
 
Wow. Friends and family booked flights and accommodation for the wedding.... that's going to be frowned on by some of those who have booked already.
Wouldn't like to be her explaining to everyone why it's all off. I guess that's her responsibility?
 
The majority of the threads on that subreddit are indeed trash or extremely exaggerated but the stuff on the sidebar and some of the books recommended will do you the world of good if you're one of those "nice guys" that wonders why it never goes well with women.
 
Wow. Friends and family booked flights and accommodation for the wedding.... that's going to be frowned on by some of those who have booked already.
Wouldn't like to be her explaining to everyone why it's all off. I guess that's her responsibility?

Yep. We've just told our respective friends individually. All friends have been fine about it and just want to make sure i'm OK. They may all end up still going as a holiday anyway, I may still go, not sure on if the ex will go, or neither of us might go, not thought that far ahead.

What constitutes a "blue piller" ?

Lol at that subreddit, funny stuff.

I had a scan through and I get what its trying to do and achieve for people who have split up or not having luck with women but its not for me haha. I imagine a blue-piller is just a hopeless guy, or someone whos split up, or someone who is a walkover?! Made for an interesting read over lunch anyway.

Agreed with the above poster, some of the side bar links were interesting. In particular the one that looks at the "SMV" values for men and women.
 
Most of those posters on subreddit just come across as having insecurity issues, banging on about being red and looking down upon blues. What drivel.
 
Most of those posters on subreddit just come across as having insecurity issues, banging on about being red and looking down upon blues. What drivel.

You know a lot of those guys have previously been unsuccessful with women, were dumped in harsh circumstances, or cheated on, etc, and now have a lot of success with girls after taking some of the advice. Do you actually have a girlfriend? How's that relationship? Before her did you have a lot of success with women? I mean it's easy to call all the advice drivel but I'm yet to see you tell Men how to be successful with Women.

Just to clarify I don't actually go on that subreddit myself, I'm in a long term relationship, but a lot of what they post on there makes a lot of sense imo. Some of it would've probably stopped some of my previous relationships failing.
 
Wouldn't recommend online dating for anything more than to 'see' there's more out there myself. (but this is probably as pickings are slim round here.. Or not so slim s the case may be!)

Still think joining groups, gym, hobbies and cutting all contact are crucial. Only go for dating when you're strong.

This alpha/beta etc stuff still entertains me. Although there is a bit of use in it. I really don't subscribe to it. It's not even necessarily that it doesn't work. But the people it works on I wouldn't want, and I would only be pretending if I was playing that part too. I think for the most part, you really can only pretend to be someone else for a while
 
Yeah pretending won't work but you can change yourself to give yourself more of those "alpha" type traits, looking strong for example can be done in the gym, working on a gaining a good career will give you higher status and wealth which is a factor for pretty much all women long term whether they admit to it or not, they don't want to be with some chump with no ambition who can barely provide for a family and is living pay cheque to pay cheque, that being said if you don't want kids then it doesn't matter as much but then this usually gives you much slimmer pickings finding a partner who also doesn't want children.

TLDR: Be single :D
 
You know a lot of those guys have previously been unsuccessful with women, were dumped in harsh circumstances, or cheated on, etc, and now have a lot of success with girls after taking some of the advice.


So you also see it the same way, these men are insecure and actually not all that "red pill" after all. They appear to resort to a borderline thuggery/faux tough guy manly man. Some of the threads on that page make these guys out to be nothing more than little bitches with their handbags out, sneering about other men they feel more superior than. It's hilarious.

Do you actually have a girlfriend? How's that relationship? Before her did you have a lot of success with women? I mean it's easy to call all the advice drivel but I'm yet to see you tell Men how to be successful with Women.

Just to clarify I don't actually go on that subreddit myself, I'm in a long term relationship, but a lot of what they post on there makes a lot of sense imo. Some of it would've probably stopped some of my previous relationships failing.

I don't need to explain or divulge any of my own personal information to you to justify giving advice. Unlike yourself, I don't feel the need to brag online about my young hot conquests. I've been more than satisfied with my love life. That's all you need to know.
 
I don't need to explain or divulge any of my own personal information to you to justify giving advice. Unlike yourself, I don't feel the need to brag online about my young hot conquests. I've been more than satisfied with my love life. That's all you need to know.

Where have I bragged? I said I'm in a long term relationship, is that bragging? You're just ducking the question. Keep hating on guys who actually get some action once in a while though if it makes you feel better
 
That reddit is generally awful shouldn't be in doubt and that particular subreddit even less so. Is there an argument that some of their intent is well meant? Yes, I think so. Is almost all of it like reading the broken brain wrongs of a spectrum-identifying manchild on a 3 week Cheetos binge and WHY WON'T MARY JANE CALL ME, I TOLD HER I LOVED HER AND MADE A WAIFU DOLL JUST LIKE HER GOD DAMMIT, I'M GOING TO NEG THAT BITCH JUST AS SOON AS I LEVEL MY PALADIN SOME MORE AND

It's basically a hate pit where asshats use bad wording to explain how much they hate the women they want to have sex with but can't. Because they're asshats. The clever ones - and I use the term ever so loosely - have worked out that if you are a sociopath in your behaviour towards fragile and impressionable girls (not women) then you might have sex with them. Until they realise the previous bit about you being an asshat in which case you neg them, get upvoted and the circle jerk continues and then bleeds into decent forums like this one.

In summary: if you're using the phrase "red pill" in anything other than an ironic way then you've made terrible life choices and will probably continue to do so and you should keep your utterly crappy opinions to yourself.
 
Yeah pretending won't work but you can change yourself to give yourself more of those "alpha" type traits, looking strong for example can be done in the gym, working on a gaining a good career will give you higher status and wealth which is a factor for pretty much all women long term whether they admit to it or not, they don't want to be with some chump with no ambition who can barely provide for a family and is living pay cheque to pay cheque, that being said if you don't want kids then it doesn't matter as much but then this usually gives you much slimmer pickings finding a partner who also doesn't want children.

TLDR: Be single :D

Yeah I don't want children. Which I know will cause issues. But does mean I don't need a stressful job. I can sit in the middle, and heaven forbid, maybe do I job I like.
Take the kids thing, I couldn't be 'alpha' in same way as I can't want kids. And again, in the same way I don't just want 'action' or a gf.

Everyone is different. And, as is usual in life, somewhere in the middle is usually the best place
 
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