TV Licence Super Thread

pooley · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:33

Avenged7Fold said:
Lol he isn't trolling, he has dug himself an embarrassing hole when he made it perfectly clear to everyone that he is the only one in the room that doesn't understand the point made. Now he cant climb out he just wishes to dig deeper to cover himself up.

Call us kids or whatever but at the end of the day, you are the only one who is failing to understand anything on this thread.

ive been called a ct nut, troll, freeman etc.. it is a bit of banter sheesh lighten up

dowie · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:34

pooley said:
im not making any claims, assumptions or anything other than asking a question albeit a specific one, you could call it splitting hairs.
these men and women all them years ago way before you and i were around made up these enactments and called them as such,which is still in effect today. what was the thought process in doing so there has to be a reason they don't call it law but 'enactments' why?

you've not added any further clarification as to what you're asking - I mean at first I thought you'd not heard of an act of parliament, so pointed out that an act or parliament is a law but that law includes both statue and common law... then it seemed that it was simply a language issue - so pointed out what an act is:

"An act is an instrument that records a fact or something that has been said, done, or agreed."

and that in the case of parliament, an 'act of parliament'... i.e. something they've agreed to - becomes legislation/law i.e. statute law

you're now asking why 'they' don't call it law... yet 'they' do.. have you not heard politicians use the word law? (so we had the potential language issue agin - were you literally getting confused by different words referring to the same thing albeit one being more precise than they other.. i.e. a car also being a vehicle etc..)

there was also a link earlier to the process - how a bill becomes an act etc..

if you can't clearly define what it is that you're asking or why you're dismissing the previous posts trying to help then perhaps you don't actually know yourself?

dowie · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:43

Glaucus said:
give up he's a trolling, he's asking why its called an act and not a law, that's it. Its been awnsered many times. Its an act of parliament and thus called and act, all acts are laws not all laws are acts. There's nothing more to debate. he is trolling very well, but its so obvious I have no idea why mods dont do more about trolls.

They do try to deal with them AFAIK, this poster isn't aggressive or abusive though so if he is a troll maybe it is less obvious - he might also genuinely be a freeman/conspiracy type who genuinely can't expand any further on the question because there is no real basis for their question in the first place.

If he can't clarify his question though after the latest attempt to get him to do so then I will stop replying to him.

pooley · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:45

please drop it dowie you can't comprehend the one question i asked to woden let alone answer it. i agree with brenn47, it's gone on long enough.
edit: thanks for being a lot more understanding than critical thinker glaucus et all..

dowie · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:49

Given that, despite polite requests to explain what you're asking, you again reply dismissively or with 'you can't comprehend'. As I've said to Glaucus above I'm not going to carry on trying to answer this nonsense... I do suspect you were trolling now

pooley · 1 Jun 2017 at 20:57

dowie said:
Given that, despite polite requests to explain what you're asking, you again reply dismissively or with 'you can't comprehend'. As I've said to Glaucus above I'm not going to carry on trying to answer this nonsense... I do suspect you were trolling now

no harm done dowie i'm done with it also

Tefal · 2 Jun 2017 at 05:56

pooley said:
act,law or lollipop call it what ever you want it seems LOL
i agree brenn47 so in conclusion we have not got a scoobies idea between us as to why...
remember kids keep watching the sky!

This is literally how the English language works.

For instance "literally" in that sentence.
What does it mean pooley.

Diddums · 2 Jun 2017 at 07:33

Why are you lot arguing with pooley? Someone's clearly told him there's a loophole in the law and it suits him to go with it so he's going to twist and turn everything you say to try and convince himself that he's right. What are you hoping to achieve by discussing these things with such a person? When it comes to people like that, I tend to just let them be as they're never going to learn until they find out the hard way.

koolpc · 2 Jun 2017 at 13:15

TV licence is a joke. Everyone knows it is money in the pocket for the government. I am not going to pay as i will not be watching TV. Its a shame that one can generate hassle for 'not' watching TV.

Brenn47 · 2 Jun 2017 at 15:10

Makes no sense that with SKY, Virgin Media, BT, Now TV etc they can't go down the subscription model .. but then again they championed Freeview, which says to me they knew what they were doing to keep the current system and the general public as licence slaves. I just wish they wouldn't be so nasty about it with the monthly threat-o-grams and coming round your house banging on your door and peering through your windows.

dowie · 2 Jun 2017 at 15:12

koolpc said:
TV licence is a joke. Everyone knows it is money in the pocket for the government. I am not going to pay as i will not be watching TV. Its a shame that one can generate hassle for 'not' watching TV.

how is it 'money in the pocket' for government?

I'm pretty sure it ends up going to the BBC

pooley · 2 Jun 2017 at 16:41

Tefal said:
This is literally how the English language works.

For instance "literally" in that sentence.
What does it mean pooley.

there are several revisions of the black's law dictionary in which the men and women in the legal society refer to when discussing what they discuss it open to interpretation..most of us use the oxford dictionary totally different.
may i suggest you look up garner's book of modern legal usage in which the legal society conform to.
it is not as cut and dry i you may think it is.

pooley · 2 Jun 2017 at 16:47

Diddums said:
Why are you lot arguing with pooley? Someone's clearly told him there's a loophole in the law and it suits him to go with it so he's going to twist and turn everything you say to try and convince himself that he's right. What are you hoping to achieve by discussing these things with such a person? When it comes to people like that, I tend to just let them be as they're never going to learn until they find out the hard way.

i don't know why they are arguing with me too, even i have dropped the issue because of it..i not trying to convince myself of whatever you think i am. that an assumption on your part
if anything i am trying to understand something hence was asking woden why?

Woden · 2 Jun 2017 at 16:54

pooley said:
i don't know why they are arguing with me too, even i have dropped the issue because of it..i not trying to convince myself of whatever you think i am. that an assumption on your part
if anything i am trying to understand something hence was asking woden why?

Why what?

pooley · 2 Jun 2017 at 16:57

Woden said:
Why what?

just LOL

dowie · 2 Jun 2017 at 17:51

Woden said:
Why what?

no one knows - unfortunately we seemed to get stuck in a local minima when trying to answer...

Glaucus · 2 Jun 2017 at 18:07

Brenn47 said:
Makes no sense that with SKY, Virgin Media, BT, Now TV etc they can't go down the subscription model .. but then again they championed Freeview, which says to me they knew what they were doing to keep the current system and the general public as licence slaves. I just wish they wouldn't be so nasty about it with the monthly threat-o-grams and coming round your house banging on your door and peering through your windows.

tv license actually makes a lot of sense, they produce a lot of stuff that is not commercially viable, which is set out by government. Wether you agree if that is needed or not is different. but bbc under a voluntary subscription would be massively different and government would not be able to demand certain things are made or adhered to.

Brenn47 · 2 Jun 2017 at 18:19

Sounds good to me, I'd be glad to drop the BBC channel.

pooley · 2 Jun 2017 at 18:26

Brenn47 said:
Sounds good to me, I'd be glad to drop the BBC channel.

never gonna happen, look at glaucus's last sentence as to why.

Glaucus · 2 Jun 2017 at 18:29

Brenn47 said:
Sounds good to me, I'd be glad to drop the BBC channel.

I would like to see a half way solution. news, education, documentaries and research split off, held to a higher a standard than they are now and paid for out of central movement as well as being allowed to sell to everyone and anyone to try and reduce what the government needs to pay.
The amount of money wasted in collecting, pursuing and charging must be in the millions.