Take that with a pinch of salt, tories are liars on all fronts. And even if true cutting police is a threat to our security. She has a nerve to say Labour are a security threat.
London Bridge Incident
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Take that with a pinch of salt, tories are liars on all fronts. And even if true cutting police is a threat to our security. She has a nerve to say Labour are a security threat.
Were you a liar when you were a Tory supporter?
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so what should we try then? on a scale of burn the mosques to light a candle what should we try? do we give may her censored internet and give up free speech, free media and freedom of privacy to catch a couple more nutcases a year?
tbh more armed police would work, you don't go on a knife rampage with a fake bomb vest if either real bombs or guns are "easily available", which would suggest that they aren't. that might be it's own can of worms for many people but do some research and you'll see that outside the land of the free giving policemen guns doesn't suddenly make them racist murdering psychopaths.
They would have to be very close to the incident location to begin with, how would that be achieved?
I think at this point the only thing that Britain can do is weather the storm, only make small careful moves/changes that might help. Hold your chins up and keep going. It will stop eventually. Sooner or later the western world will probably be facing much bigger problems.
Don't get me wrong 8 minutes is will an amazing response.
But if that first BTP officer was a pair of officers on patrol with say tazer then hypothetically there could have been a lot less casualties.
London and other larger cities aside for the moment, you're lucky if you see street bobbies day to day in a lot of southern towns. Police numbers are a joke.
Does giving police guns stop vans running people over or bombs detonating in stadiums?
No. It doesn't.
They will have to change the laws to be able to hold people indefinitely purely on speculation. It's going to be a weird country were you can be banged up for just talking about stuff. Money should be spent behind the scenes but be able to follow up aggressively on information.
No. It doesn't.
They will have to change the laws to be able to hold people indefinitely purely on speculation. It's going to be a weird country were you can be banged up for just talking about stuff. Money should be spent behind the scenes but be able to follow up aggressively on information.
So what happens to the policemen now? IPCC investigation I assume...
Good idea, I'll change my facebook picture in support immediately.
Doubt it.
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Don't worry under labour we can all have a group hug and wish away are troubles .......
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So if you saw me shooting a terroirst, you certainly wouldn't shoot me.
I'll shout Admiral Ackbar too, whilst holding the remote control for my MP3 player
No that has been going on for 1400 years.
What if it doesn't stop, when will a line be drawn? What/where will that line be?
I suppose nobody knows at the moment.
Arming everycop will result in more deaths, more criminals bring armed, an arms race so to speak.
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oh ultimately it ends with us abandoning either our morality or our freedom.
its just a choice as to which one we'd rather keep hold of.
I think even if police presence was increased and if all police were armed with either a gun or a tazer it would make little difference, those officers still have to be in the right place at the right time
People always forget this, people on the ground in communities hear things early and its something that police have done for years effectively. how much has that suffered from this governments 25% reduction in police funding? To think that its had no impact is simply denial, especially when real police officers are telling us it has.
There is simply no argument with this, there can't be.
Thanks for info. I suppose 8 minutes is good timeframe. It just strikes me as odd anyway since this was in the very heart of London, exactly where police presence I would expect to be very significant.
I wonder, do people here find this too extreme?
Yes. Death penalty we shouldnt have for anything IMO and esp not this as it makes them a martyr. Life imprisonment is fine.
The police dont want guns, all it will mean is the criminals will tool up and it will escalate. More people innocent people will get shot accidentally as well.
There is no PC stopping people reporting extremist activity. That isnt the same as been allowed to sate on a forum "all Muslims are terrorists" though.
Rest is fine..