Poll: Exit Poll: UK General Election 2017 - Results discussion and OcUK Exit Poll - Closing 8th July

Exit poll: Who did you vote for?

  • Conservatives

    Votes: 302 27.5%

  • Labour

    Votes: 577 52.6%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 104 9.5%

  • Green

    Votes: 13 1.2%

  • UKIP

    Votes: 19 1.7%

  • Scottish National Party

    Votes: 30 2.7%

  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 6 0.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 46 4.2%
  • Total voters
    1,097
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Freddie1980 said:
http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/constituencies/E14000628

Interesting result, Conservative hold in Chelmsford is expected but look at the UKIP vote it's all but disappeared but rather then go to the Tories it went to Labour. This probably explains the result in the whole of the country as I think a lot of us expected the UKIP vote to go to the Conservatives but Corbyn's position on Brexit has had the effect of bringing those voters to his side. Well played Mr Marxist, well played.
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It's not quite that simple. Interviews suggest that most of the UKIP vote did indeed go to the Tories, but then the Tories lost lots of votes to Labour, esp in constituencies that voted remain.
 
Freddie1980 said:
http://www.bbc.com/news/politics/constituencies/E14000628

Interesting result, Conservative hold in Chelmsford is expected but look at the UKIP vote it's all but disappeared but rather then go to the Tories it went to Labour. This probably explains the result in the whole of the country as I think a lot of us expected the UKIP vote to go to the Conservatives but Corbyn's position on Brexit has had the effect of bringing those voters to his side. Well played Mr Marxist, well played.
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i expect it did go to the tories, however mays authoritarian 1984 approach, moved a lot of historic tory voters to labour.
 
Can some explain why the media and Labour supporters are treating this like a massive victory for the party?

The conservatives lost 13 seats despite their leader not being very popular, despite Brexit, despite being in power during a period of general **** for the country due to global economic issues, despite really unpopular cuts to various services.

Labour has a late surge because young people have drunk the Corbyn kool-aid and their favourite celebs spouting their couch politics have decided he is suddenly cool. Under the circumstances I would say that labour have managed to lose an election that at any other time in history they would have been expected to easily win.
 
Glaucus said:
i expect it did go to the tories, however mays authoritarian 1984 approach, moved a lot of historic tory voters to labour.
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This. Thats what i think heppened in a lot of places. They may have swept up 5000 UKIP votes but then lost 10,000 Tory voters to Labour. Thats pretty damning.
 
Gigabit said:
I think what's going to happen is the Tories move closer to the centre. They're going to have to do something about tuition fees to win any support in the students which will be key at any future election now they know they can make a difference.
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with some changes they could easily have a sizeable majority next time.
 
Irish_Tom said:
Regarding Dianne Abbott — this is a good read.

That's not to excuse some of the more outlandish things she's come out with, or the fact that she couldn't interview herself out of a paper bag, but there's a lot more to her than just the media bashing we've all seen recently.
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I'll admit I bought into some of the nonsense in the media about her and was pleased when she stepped down the other day, for me I feel she's just very poor on TV and struggles under pressure on camera. As you've said though, certainly doesn't excuse some of her past behaviours.
 
ajf said:
So, as of now, is it all done and dusted and we have a Conervative goverment with DUP support, or are things still in the balance?

Also, Corbyn says he wants to try a minority goverment. Isn't this just as unworkable as he would never have the guaranteed numbers?
Or does he mean with a coalition of other parties to get the majority count?
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Constitutionally it sort of had to happen like this as they have the most votes but the fact is they struggled with a bigger majority that they have now ( when added to the DUP) and they have to factor in several requirements of the people they are in bed with. The DUP are pro single market and don't like the conservative austerity measures and the social care stuff the Tories put forward. Secondly the Scottish conservatories have made no attempt to hide the fact that they want to retain single market access.

"experts" are saying patience is needed but the general opinion is that she's on borrowed time, as much from her own party as the electorate. The massive failure of expected seats suggest they are heading in the wrong direction completely, lets not forget they were 20+ points ahead just 8 weeks ago. That would have given them a 130+ seat majority when instead they actually lost seats including two in seats considered stone wall safe.

She has no mandate to continue on down this path and her party know this.
 
mmj_uk said:
The DUP were pro-Brexit.
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yes pro brexit, but want a soft one so they can retain soft borders and access to the single market. SOmething that May has said can't be done because no deal is better than a bad deal. Although her views on that are questionable because she has just cut a bad deal to cling on to power, so she is even a liar on that point
 
NinjaSeb said:
How could she be so stupid? Did she think we the 48% had disappeared..

Last the year the young had a shock so they made sure they turned up this time compounding her problems.

I am starting to believe Brexit can actually be stopped now if things become more and more disastrous.

Boris to take us into Brexit negotiations..are you kidding me?
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Then what? Civil unrest?
 
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