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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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If that score is indicative of gaming performance,being in between a GTX1080 and GTX1080TI is not too bad,especially since the GP102 looks to be a similar sized GPU,and AMD will be using lower density HBM2 stacks than the Vega FE card and less RAM chips than the Fiji based cards used.

I do wonder if the AMD using 8GB stacks with Vega FE did not help with power consumption,especially if they are early revision chips being used too.
 
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PCPer tested 2 Vega FE in crossfire LOL

https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-Vega-Frontier-Edition-CrossFire-Testing

2 Vega FE which is now available in stock for £2398 in total for 2 at OCUK is as fast as a single cheapest £688 1080 Ti at 4K in Dirt Rally and Witcher 3 but up to 33% slower than single 1080 Ti in Fallout 4, GTA V and Hitman LOL.

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People still not getting it... Just wait until Vega comes out before you judge, these cards are clearly not aimed at gaming. Not making excuses but no one is spending £1000 on a card for gaming unless it's a Titan, but even then you only do it because you have too much money and are too impatient.

Go out and buy a ti if it bothers you that much.
 
this vega FE is puzzeling, it's shaping up to be the worst AMD GPU ever, if performance of the RX are not about 30% faster.
Raja need to stop the drinking imo.
 
flea-rider said:
yeah but that bitch will be slapped when rx vega comes out @£450 ish
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A GPU that is in 1070/1080 territory or even a little above 1080 territory at ~£450 isn't a good thing - it might make some of the more diehard AMD fans happy but it won't move a lot of money for AMD and potentially relatively short lived before the next generation of cards make it obsolete. 12-18 months ago it would have been a very different story.
 
Rroff said:
A GPU that is in 1070/1080 territory or even a little above 1080 territory at ~£450 isn't a good thing - it might make some of the more diehard AMD fans happy but it won't move a lot of money for AMD and potentially relatively short lived before the next generation of cards make it obsolete. 12-18 months ago it would have been a very different story.
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Well there isnt another AMD card at 1080 territory, there are people out there that want at least 1080 performance for their high refresh rate displays + higher resolution to boot with freesync, there are more freesync monitors out there. People aren't wanting an AMD card that beats the 1080 ti, thats a bonus, people want an AMD card because they want its eco system.
 
OK, so I have been waiting for the release of the VEGA for what feels like a decade,
I have the AMD Radeon R9 390. YES... I know I need an upgrade! But I thought I should buy my first home before a GPU.

At the moment I am torn, do I buy a 1070? or wait to see the full release of the VEGA range?

At this point reading the latest news, I am still thinking about waiting until the RX release and watch the performance and the prices wars.

I have in mind future proofing, G-Tax, and the similarities known to the Fury X.
Yet I am still none the wiser. I have been watching the forum and other news feeds yet lost as hell!

Can anyone shed some light? Should I be patient? As I know I should be! As frustrating as it is!
 
JunglePioneer said:
OK, so I have been waiting for the release of the VEGA for what feels like a decade,
I have the AMD Radeon R9 390. YES... I know I need an upgrade! But I thought I should buy my first home before a GPU.

At the moment I am torn, do I buy a 1070? or wait to see the full release of the VEGA range?

At this point reading the latest news, I am still thinking about waiting until the RX release and watch the performance and the prices wars.

I have in mind future proofing, G-Tax, and the similarities known to the Fury X.
Yet I am still none the wiser. I have been watching the forum and other news feeds yet lost as hell!

Can anyone shed some light? Should I be patient? As I know I should be! As frustrating as it is!
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I'm waiting too. We are only 3 weeks away now. Just wait and your choice will be revealed.
 
AllBodies said:
For this to be their plan it'd have to be 1080 Ti performance for £350-400, or 1080 performance for no more than £300.

Unless Nvidia are going to break with convention, the 2070 will be 1080 Ti performance for around £400. And the 2070/2080 die will likely be a lot smaller than Vega, probably hovering around 400mm2.

So unless GloFo are cheaper than TSMC per mm2, Vega would be making a lot worse margins than Volta.

On the flip side, if this wasn't AMD's plan it basically HAS to be their plan now. Unless they have a magic driver, Vega's performance is going to be 'meh' at best against Pascal, but look completely stupid against Volta. Unless it undercuts/competes with the 2070 on price as you suggest.
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Vega's die size is another puzzle. We also didn't get an architecture break down of FE; so we can't deduce if RX vega will be bigger or smaller than it or what all those transistors are doing.

Just went back to the financial analyst day video and AMD broke down the potential markets as follows:
Compute $1000+
Ultra - Enthusiast & high end workstation $500-$1000
Enthusiast & mid range workstation $200-$500

https://youtu.be/590h3XIUfHg (40:34)

If we give AMD the benefit of the doubt (that they aren't completely clueless); FE for compute, RX vega for the Enthusiast market?
 
JunglePioneer said:
OK, so I have been waiting for the release of the VEGA for what feels like a decade,
I have the AMD Radeon R9 390. YES... I know I need an upgrade! But I thought I should buy my first home before a GPU.

At the moment I am torn, do I buy a 1070? or wait to see the full release of the VEGA range?

At this point reading the latest news, I am still thinking about waiting until the RX release and watch the performance and the prices wars.

I have in mind future proofing, G-Tax, and the similarities known to the Fury X.
Yet I am still none the wiser. I have been watching the forum and other news feeds yet lost as hell!

Can anyone shed some light? Should I be patient? As I know I should be! As frustrating as it is!
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At this point with miners already driven up 1070 prices and RX vega only being a few weeks off i'd wait and see how it is. Even if for some reason its a flop or silly priced i doubt its going to affect the resale of your 390 at all
 
Raelgun said:
Well there isnt another AMD card at 1080 territory, there are people out there that want at least 1080 performance for their high refresh rate displays + higher resolution to boot with freesync, there are more freesync monitors out there. People aren't wanting an AMD card that beats the 1080 ti, thats a bonus, people want an AMD card because they want its eco system.
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Yeah but vast amounts of the market at this point have either gone 1070/1080 or given up and gone 1080, etc. those diehards and even those that might switch back to get FreeSync, etc. aren't going to be making them the money they need going forward - combined with being relatively late in the day for a card at this performance point at this segment of the market means they won't get the length of sales run they normally would either (unless something goes badly wrong with sub 14/16nm which isn't looking likely at this point - infact quite the reverse).
 
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