It's going to need to be a lot cheaper than that!
The same performance as 15 month old tech yet with a huge deficit in power/noise/heat. Price is the only thing that could save Vega. It needs to be very cheap indeed.
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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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The same performance as 15 month old tech yet with a huge deficit in power/noise/heat. Price is the only thing that could save Vega. It needs to be very cheap indeed.
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I'm itching too. I still am running my 970 and a terrible monitor! But it's summer time and the PC doesn't get my use as it's too hot. Plus 3 weeks only left until Vega.
It's worth the wait considering it's been this long already. If nothing else I'm hoping Vega will me the 1080 cheaper. The issue is the 1000 series is 3/4 of the way through it's life cycle and still prices are as they where.
I wasn't prepared to pay the prices and I still aren't, hence why I am still running a 970.
3 more weeks is all we need to wait.
At this point they are going to struggle with making a profit and/or funding ongoing R&D if they price the card too low - there isn't really a good position for AMD here unless they can do something that makes waves in the industry.
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From this I'd assume:
Compute: MI25 and Firepro
Ultra-enthusiast: FE-Vega (watercooled version counts as the 'upgraded' version, so still fits the $1000 range kind of)
Enthusiast & mid-range: RX Vega. This would then lead me to believe RX may be $300-450, or $350-500 for full-die and cut-down.
You should wait for the RX Vega release, and even after that, it's really not a great time to go out and buy a 1070, or any GPU really at this moment coz they are all massively overpriced... Not so much waiting for Vega but waiting for prices to readjust, you're talking like 450£+ for a 1070 at the moment, that's like 1080 prices a month or two ago... That being said this Ethereum craze could go on well into 2018, but the Nvidia cryptocurrency cards might smooth things out when they come out. So yeah it's worth the wait IMO.
I don’t think they will have any problem with funding ongoing R&D, most of the GPU money comes from the mainstream and they are selling every chip they can make. I expect AMD to release a limited quantity of VEGA high end cards just so they can say they released it, High end VEGA chips will likely sell better for the workstation/server markets. The lower end VEGA chips should do OK if they use cheaper VRAM and perform better than the RX 580.
I still can't get my mind around the fact that they didn't shrink Fiji just to go up against the 1070 it would have had a potentially smaller die than the 1070, a small Fiji would have been good to go up against the 1070 and below. A good slot potential between Polaris and Vega I also find it surprising as AMD aren't known for not reusing GPUs, can't remember the last time AMD didn't rebrand/refresh a GPU.
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Thanks for the advise, I know that I should wait. The price doesnt worry me, I just dont want to spend money then the next week its 100 cheaper.
I just have to wait the 3 weeks and hold my neveve. Thank you guys for all you help @ Wesbo @ Opethdesciple
Fingers crossed!
Their plans only really get formulated when they get working silicon and see what clocks its capable of. Polaris being a prime example, was expected to be a much better performer, didn't get the clocks it needed to be a good performer so the plans then was to waffle about it being a "disruptive" product and how it was great value for money. If it had scaled well it would have obviously been a much more expensive card. Same applies here, if this just bests a 1080 amd will have to drop the price to around 1080 levels, while knowing full well their best effort was 2016's "high end" performance.
Not really a good situation for amd if it pans out that way, they can toot their horn and play pr spin all they like, the facts will be that performance is over a year old and is no longer "high end" despite vega being their high end gpu.
Ever since Eric Demers left amd have really dropped the ball with regard to their gpu's, same could be said for Jim Keller, he left and amd cpu's tanked, he came back to help design ryzen and they're back in the game.
Well that could potentially happen with those NVidia Crypto cards, I don't know when they are due to be released ? But you can bet the miners will jump on em.
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Exactly my thought. Thats why I dont really want to wait for Crypto and I might as well upgrade when there is a price war (hopefully) and the 1080 / 1070 may drop in price or VEGA is cheaper with more FPS.
And I REALLY need a new GPU!
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I have been so close to pressing the button on ....
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/kfa2...ddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-09d-kf.html
Wait. You'll get the full picture on the Vega RX, and if you go green, Nvidia will drop prices and you'll pay less.
Just hang tight its been this long ..what's another 3 weeks ..besides £470 for a 1070 ..are they having a laugh..
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Ignore nvidia for God sake.
Vega doesn't need anything from nvidia AMD fans or people just looking for better bang for buck monitor plus GPU will be watching Vega.
So what if Nvidia has had this performance for over a year it means nothing to me and am sure I not alone.
Even if Vega is the same price has 1080 AMD still offer the best complete PC setup for price and performance.
Monitors, CPU's, motherboards and GPUs
All nvidia care about is ripping of their highend market with GPU after GPU Ti ripping into the TX for example. It's a joke and only the die hard nvidia fans on here defend this practice.
Agree the main reason i do not want to be into MR leather jacket mans Eco system
Almost £500 for a 1070... are you mad?
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