Ignore nvidia for God sake.
Vega doesn't need anything from nvidia AMD fans or people just looking for better bang for buck monitor plus GPU will be watching Vega.
So what if Nvidia has had this performance for over a year it means nothing to me and am sure I not alone.
You're not.
All nvidia care about is ripping of their highend market with GPU after GPU Ti ripping into the TX for example. It's a joke and only the die hard nvidia fans on here defend this practice.
I've never really cared about which brand of GPU I use but I've leaned towards AMD in recent years because the thought of them going under and leaving Nvidia with no competition is scary, Look at Intel for reason's why one brand is bad. Regardless of that Nvidia's behaviour since AMD announced that they weren't releasing a high end 400 series gpu has been disgusting, From the Founder edition tax & general pricing to the way they released the Txp, Ti & TxP almost on top of each other, The way they've taken advantage of us the customers is glaringly obvious.
Almost £500 for a 1070... are you mad?
Heartbreaking.
It certainly is.
AMD seem to be going backwards in terms of IPC from Fiji to Vega! And the power consumption of 300-375 watts for 1080 perf is INSANE!
who in their right mind is buying Vega, when it's 12+ months late to the party, hugely power hungry, and may not even be much cheaper?
You can't look at tests where you purposely throttle a chip to compare IPC's because that chip isn't designed to run with those types of clocks, I said the same thing about all those wanting to see Ryzen compared to Kaby lake at 4ghz, What's the point? It's irrelevant as no-ones going to run Vega at 1050mhz and Fiji can never get close to 1600mhz, Even if Vega does have a similar IPC to Fiji, does that matter? I don't think so, We're told NCU is replacing GCN and the first gen NCU matches the IPS of the top end GCN cards, That sounds like good news to me, The only way is up.
Brand loyalty and blindly buying only AMD or only nV is a fool's game. Forget "ecosystems"... buy the best tech on the market, that meets your needs. Ignoring one side of the other because you don't like them is extremely silly.
+1,
I get it in relation to going with Gsync because of the hefty premium it add's but not Freesync, I'd say that buying a non adaptive-sync monitor in order to avoid entering an eco-system is stupid. Part of why I bought a Freesync panel is because it doesn't hold the sort of premium that going with G-sync does, An extra 20 or 30 quid isn't going to break the bank but it is going to make gaming better when I do have a Radeon gpu to use with it and it'll help it sell quicker on the secondhand market when I finally upgrade to a new monitor again.
Am surprised people are willing to accept 1080 performance so long after release but I guess the Freesync force is strong. I do think AMD are going to struggle for at least another year or two to outpace Nvidia. I miss the 9700/9800 glory days.
Freesync user's have been stuck with best performance levels from Fiji, Which are below the 980ti & 1070, As noted when the 1080 and 1070 released Nvidia purposely made it so the 1070 overclocked could not match a 1080 due to how many bought 970's and overclocked them to stock 980 performance (I remember the topic being discussed by someone like Tom wotsit and Pcper). Although the 1080 has been out for quite a while AMD haven't had that level of performance, And that performance is ideal for 1440p & uw1440 so I'll happily live with that if it's sensibly priced.
