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Yea, no big deal right, why worry about it when you can just buy 4 every time a new one comes out
If performance is a requirement, why wouldn't you?
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If performance is a requirement, why wouldn't you?
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You do realize mantle evolved into vulkan....
Yep, AMD had to get rid of it (the now Vulkan) because no one was interested in it, and Nvidia also turned it down, so when Kronos took it, and Nvidia decided to now support it, it came back from the dead, as massive interest now, developers all over it, like flys around a cows arse!
All those AMD console games, whats the first thing you see when you boot them up on the PC ?
Yep, thats right, its this :-
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I've had more than 1 a year I think. Fairly frequent.
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8 games used Mantle so far from no interest. The Vulkan uptake on PC is far slower compared to Mantle now that the mighty Nvidia are involved
. I hope Vulkan goes on to do good things and if it does it's got nothing to do with NV and all to do with those who started Mantle and those who polished it up to be Vulkan (if Nvidia are or were involved in it then same goes for them). AMD get stick for not following things through but i feel that's exactly what they did here and when they took it as far as possible they made good use of it for even Nvidia to benefit.- Battlefield 4.
- Battlefield Hardline.
- Thief.
- Star Citizen.( Not 100% on this but it was on the list)
- Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare.
- Civilization: Beyond Earth.
- Dragon Age: Inquisition.
- Sniper Elite III.
One big one, money.
If money was not an issue I would like a Lambo also. But alas one must prioritise things, graphics cards are nice, but not exactly on the top of my list
Besides my post was just a joke for Kaapstad who usually always buys 4 of every new top end card, he even purchased 4 RX 480's which were not even top end cards
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The funny thing is, the only nvidia cards that beat a 480 in the "majority" of titles are the 980ti/1070 and upwards but yeah amd sucks at dx 11!!!!
Just look at the 290(x) and 780(ti) and other older equivalent cards in dx 11 titles, neck in neck at launch and over the last few years, well the less said the better.....
No, AMD have said from the start that mantle was made along side with dice in order for developers to have another choice to dx and opengl (as developers had been giving of about these apis for along time), they said that developers can do what they want with it and that when the gaming industry moved forward with better low level apis that mantle would no longer be needed. Rather funny how dx 12 and vulkan not long followed after mantle's creation and the praise it got eh
Please don't tell me that you don't understand how sponsorship works now either?
i.e. nvidia pay the companies to have their branding over the product or/and offer their gameworks effects. The same way AMD "sponsor" certain games and so on.
And lets not get started on the disaster of some of the gameworks/nvidia sponsored titles
Also, not that many titles over the last few years have been nvidiasponsored let alone many with gameworks....
But yes keep beating that dead horse about how amd suck in games compared to nvidia even though they are matching and usually beating the equivalent nvidia cards in the majority of them
8 games used Mantle so far from no interest. The Vulkan uptake on PC is far slower compared to Mantle now that the mighty Nvidia are involved
- Battlefield 4.
- Battlefield Hardline.
- Thief.
- Star Citizen.( Not 100% on this but it was on the list)
- Plants vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare.
- Civilization: Beyond Earth.
- Dragon Age: Inquisition.
- Sniper Elite III.
hahahahaha
Thanks for saving me the time to do yet another list etc.
But yeah no mantle and dx 12 games!!!!!!
DX 12 is just a myth guys....
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This..
Andy knows dam well I have tested this even way back to mantle. Even created threads on here with results so he has a dam cheeck to say I don't understand what I seeing/feeling.
It's funny because almost everyone at the time of Mantle and even close friends to this day/people I speak with say they even notice a difference between APIs.
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All those who were told to buy AMDs cards for Dx12, they must laughing their bloody asses off now at the sheer amount of games they got, lucky ********
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One big one, money.
If money was not an issue I would like a Lambo also. But alas one must prioritise things, graphics cards are nice, but not exactly on the top of my list
Besides my post was just a joke for Kaapstad who usually always buys 4 of every new top end card, he even purchased 4 RX 480's which were not even top end cards
Raises a decent question of priorities though. If performance > cost, then you'll buy however many cards you need, regardless of cost, offsetting other priorities in life (caveat: Unless other aspects of life do not need to be considered).
Placebo!
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All those who were told to buy AMDs cards for Dx12, they must laughing their bloody asses off now at the sheer amount of games they got, lucky ********
Why would they as there dx11 performance matches Nvidia 1060's and there dx12 performance exceeds it. There is no real loss to getting a 480 and the performance is getting stronger, has more Vram and plenty of dx12 games to come in the future. The 480 is probably in a bracket where people upgrade less often.
I also backed up your claims with my own mantle vs dx 11 benchmarks shankly (in fact we had a number of people and even video comparisons) but nah, lets not bring "facts" with hard evidence into this sub-forum, instead lets just spout any old rubbish
Yup
And remember rise of the tomb raider, launched with just dx 11, eventually got a broken dx 12 patch which didn't see much improvement for any card and the nvidia lot were saying that async was included and then a few months later, a refinement patch came with async added and then we saw some nice gains for amd yet again Funnily the nvidia defence league went very quiet after that 
What makes the above even funnier is that the xbox one had async on day 1 so it was purposely removed for the PC version...... oh and this:
Even though, purehair was using amd's work
But that is what "sponsorship" grants you
Yup
And remember rise of the tomb raider, launched with just dx 11, eventually got a broken dx 12 patch which didn't see much improvement for any card and the nvidia lot were saying that async was included and then a few months later, a refinement patch came with async added and then we saw some nice gains for amd yet again
Funnily the nvidia defence league went very quiet after that What makes the above even funnier is that the xbox one had async on day 1 so it was purposely removed for the PC version...... oh and this:
Even though, purehair was using amd's work
But that is what "sponsorship" grants you
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nope, not yet, AMD chucked money at them to do advertising and giveaways but its still running DX11 only - the plan for "launch" is to have vulkan up and running and to then phase out DX11, but that could all still be years away
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That almost everyone I know says they notice a difference? Lool Okay
Want more Proof? Here is a GTX 970 with Hitman getting better Frame Latency = a smoother gaming experiance. Take a look at the bottom left!!! And its this why time and time again I have said I will never used Benchmarks without footage and proper tools to showcase this.
https://youtu.be/1SZw7XhRx6A?t=214
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Thought that might be the case. Makes sense tbh.
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I'm surprised that the 970 is gaining in dx 12 there....
Wasn't that game suppose to be biased to AMD and dx 12 according to people here? All because a 290 was matching a 980ti under dx 12?
Supporting async on consoles and PC is a very different story even with AMD hardware - it would have needed to be reimplemented even if it had launched on PC with async support.
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