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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **
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It's obvious there's a prime directive at AMD to never give away performance figures before launching a product. Everything we're seeing springs from that.
I'm honoured to be one of the 3 most terrible posters in your estimation
I'll wear that badge with complete indifference.Curious minds want to know who the other two are tho
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Those that won't listen don't learn.
Ignorance is bliss eh?
Ignorance is bliss eh?
Of course. All companies have that.
But is not related to performance only. Is bigger matters also. Did you hear anything about Infinity Fabric before the day Ryzen was on sale? That is the main tech driving all their products now.
Even whole Intel got caught unaware. To the point forced them rushing the X299, while adding 2 CPUs on the line-up ad-hoc, from their server market.
Few days after Raja confirming Vega supports IF, Nvidia papers start coming out with similar design planned for 2021-22. While just this week Intel announced they are moving away from the Core architecture, which they used more than a decade.
Companies like AMD/Intel/Nvidia have you sign NDA with your contract. And while you work for them if you leak something they basically drive you to be unemployed and homeless to the end of your days.
It's a lot of money there, and if AMD doesn't want you to know something, ofc they wont do so. Especially if they have the tech that slingshots them forward 4-5 years over the competition.
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It could be a smart move to stay silent. In all other launches the hype has been way over the top. So what comes is usually disappointment. Let this FE edition bring the hype to almost nothing and bring out a decent card and there will be a more positive mood. In turn this could lead to better sales. Have to admit that FE launch turned the hype way down.
I worked on a product that bombed spectacularly and publicly. That taught me to never assume that those doing product positioning and marketing actually know what they are doing or that things will naturally come into alignment by launch time.
Personally I am not that interest on the performance. The perf going to be much better than the FuryX, that's guaranteed.
What I am interested to know is, how the card cache will be used on the Ryzen CPUs and how IF (Infinity Fabric) will work over multiple graphic devices along side a Ryzen CPU.
There is a danger here though that people equate market strategy to tech/R&D development progress. AMD managed to successfully catch Intel wrong footed in their product execution cycle but it doesn't mean - as some try to make out - that Intel has fallen behind and will be playing catch up on some of the tech that AMD have put into their CPUs, etc.
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It's definitely interesting to see if a Ryzen/Vega combo would give any advantages over an Intel/Vega combo. If there is this could boost sales of Ryzen and Vega.
I am most interested in knowing the price. That will probably be the make or break thing for Vega in my opinion.
Could be some gains, probably mostly in relation to load times though, in that combination but I'll be surprised if there is any significant advantages in terms of multi GPU use - as can be seen with the projected nVidia approach that (ostensibly) requires a very different architecture approach to current monolithic GPU cores. In terms of GPU to GPU and CPU to GPU communications the NF200 chipset was capable of doing something similar(ish) for SLI setups and the gains were minor - around 5% average increase in multi GPU scaling on my EVGA 750 board that had it over SLI on a board that didn't use the NF200 chip.
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'I Just Want To Game'
Then grab the drivers here, and switch to gaming mode.
That is them saying, if all you do is gaming, and nothing else, then yes, you can use the FE for that, so yes, the FE is solely a gaming card.
As i said before, if its not, then why say that, why not what Raj said.
'I Just Want To Game'
If you just want to game, then we suggest waiting for the RX Vega, which we will be launching at Siggraph etc... etc....
Then grab the drivers here, and switch to gaming mode.
That is them saying, if all you do is gaming, and nothing else, then yes, you can use the FE for that, so yes, the FE is solely a gaming card.
As i said before, if its not, then why say that, why not what Raj said.
'I Just Want To Game'
If you just want to game, then we suggest waiting for the RX Vega, which we will be launching at Siggraph etc... etc....
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Raja does say to wait though.
So basically you can game on it but it's not optimised for gaming like the RX will be. What are these optimisations i wonder. He also says different flavours of RX Vega will be faster but how much faster is what we need answering. It's different to Titan Xp which is the ultimate gaming card where as this FE is not the same type of card. Any how lets see what the gaming orientated version can do then see if AMD deserve all the crap being thrown there way after the FE review. They clearly advise not to buy this if you are just gaming as it's not a gaming orientated card.
People love car analogy's so the FE is like a road going wrx but you could still use it to rally. The RX Vega will be the wrx in rally form which will obviously be faster and more suited to the job. Only difference here is the focused model would cost way more than the road car
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Give it a rest Loadsa, we get the picture
Chill until RX Vega is out. If they fail, then you can have at it
Honestly, if they cannot get at least minimum 1080 performance, it is going to be very disappointing. I am still expecting between 1080 and 1080Ti performance depending on the game. More importantly though, the price better be good as they are mega late!
I did not say it was a particularly good duck.
Sounds like the discount duck from the local chinese then.
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Sounds like the discount duck from the local chinese then.
You mean freshly shot crows and seagull's with a bit of cat thrown in for extra spice.
How they couldn't see that backfiring just boggles my mind - it would have been so easy to get out ahead of it and mitigate the potential backlash.
Haha, considering the amount of starlings in the area, I would not be surprised.
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This was said well before the FE release. 2 months ago to be exact. He done a question and answer.
https://videocardz.com/69662/raja-koduri-explains-where-radeon-rx-vega-in-reddit-ama
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