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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Rroff said:
Nah FX puts up a good fight in some select games and closes the gap at 4K quite a bit (though often without as good frametimes) but overall its still a fair bit slower than an overclocked 980ti or 1070.
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Fury X at 1440p/4k competes pretty well with a stock 980ti.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_1080_Ti_SC2/images/perfrel_3840_2160.png

It really is only when the gtx980ti is overclocked that things change. Techpower's benchmark suite doesn't flatter the Fury X either. Vega should be faster than what we are seeing imo. Looking at those charts where would you expect a 1600mhz Fury X to be. At 4k it should at least be above a gtx1080 and it would only be a gtx1080 sized core on the new 14nm. It really is perplexing that AMD are bring a close to 500nm chip and nothing seems to have improved.
 
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DONOHUE07 said:
Nothing wrong with the 290, it's 4 years old and isn't far off from 1060 or 4/580 once overclocked
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Not saying there is anything wrong with it - but about 2 weeks or something before launch there was a back and forth between one of the Dice employees (Johan Andersson) who had a card for testing purposes and 1-2 people from AMD bigging it up as something truly ground breaking that would leave nVidia a wreck.
 
Rroff said:
Not saying there is anything wrong with it - but about 2 weeks or something before launch there was a back and forth between one of the Dice employees (Johan Andersson) who had a card for testing purposes and 1-2 people from AMD bigging it up as something truly ground breaking that would leave nVidia a wreck.
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Are you referring to Vega or a 290?
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I saw this posted on AT forums:

https://s13.postimg.org/3malji9br/impossible.png

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The impossible??
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90+% Crossfire scaling in a majority of games. Thats my guess.
 
TheRealDeal said:
I agree. in compute it performs great v the Titan Xp. Why is the power so lost when it comes to games. A good compute card is usually a decent gaming card where fp32 is concerned. Vega just seems to make no sense as they have added in gaming features and upgrades yet they don't seem to be doing nothing in the slightest. Yea some features seem to be ahead of there time as usual and might need devs to code for it but i find it odd that the design offers nothing at all over fury X clock for clock. Still have a little optimism because of this but really not expecting much more than what we are seeing atm. Since Fury X it's been far to much hype with no pay off.
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It's all a bit strange at first I thought it was the scheduler and AMD hitting the wal with CPU draw calls again or the HBCC using to much die space that could have been used for more shaders but neither of them really explain what we are seeing. I mean Doom gets around AMD's overhead issues yet Vega FE is bearly ahead of a 1080 but with a 300 watt TDP, 4096 shaders, HBM 2 and a surposidly beat IPC Vega should be near enough top of the charts in a game like Doom.

I wonder if AMD will be forthcoming with answers during it's investors call once the initial reviews are out the way (that's even if they aend out press samples, if they only give out a few then that right there tells you all you need to know).
 
r7slayer said:
Even now a fury x comletes and beats a 980ti which is on par or the 1070 ever so slightly beating the 980ti. So how on earth does the cur down struggle to beat the 1070? Makes zero sense yea and full fat vega struggles to keep up with a 1080?! Id love for amd to release the cards abd be like we had stuff disabled in drivers but heres release drivers have fun. Doubt it tho.
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Your using standard benchmarks which don't factor in overclocking. When overclocked a 980ti is significantly faster.
 
I think that the hype train is going faster than ever, just not in the direction that AMD would like.

I am just after an upgrade for my 290x but it will be between Nvidia or AMD, I am not totally loyal to a brand and will go for the best performance for my cash.

I will have about 1200 for either 2 gpu's and water blocks (2x 1080 sea hawk) or might change it up and go 1 GPU (1080ti) and a rift!

Will be 100% waiting for the Vega to see if it is any good/ it's effect on the market prices.

If it has between 1080 and 1080ti performance and is less than £550 with a waterblock I might be inclined to get 2. More than that price or less than that performance it will be a struggle to justify the purchase over the Nvidia option.

I think that most people in the market for a new GPU are of a similar opinion they want the best performance for the money. The indication that the Vega could be 700 then I won't be making that purchase unless it can spank a ti, at 700 it needs to beat the next generation of Nvidia cards.
I prefer AMD cards because of the freesync but I would sacrifice that if they can't produce a good GPU and go Nvidia and maybe VR.
 
Kaapstad said:
GTX 980 Ti cards still have very good overclocking and performance.:)
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+1

OC vs OC on a fury x + 980Ti the 980Ti still edges it out.

I'm not being a bore here but considering this. It's going to take a further 30% to beat a 1080 and 60%+ to beat a 1080Ti. And considering we're only seeing a new architecture, same shader core count, and slightly different hbm. It's a lot to ask of VEGA.

And personally if they can't compete with the Ti then they have lost yet again in my eyes.

Volta comes out, what then? AMD finally competes with pascal via Navi 8 months later? Sad times.
 
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