Who will want to buy one, no doubt as incentive to go electric fossil fuel cars will be taxed to death, you wont be allowed in towns with them.
Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040
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Who will want to buy one, no doubt as incentive to go electric fossil fuel cars will be taxed to death, you wont be allowed in towns with them.
Exactly, 6pm, majority of the working population get home and put their car on charge. That's a LOT of extra strain on the grid.
Everyone is going to be locked in to paying "battery rental" rather than fuel costs (plus high electricity bills), which works out more expensive than petrol if your doing less than about 20-30 miles a day. This isn't going to be a saving for anyone.
But it's still a couple of decades away so hopefully all the issues with EVs will be sorted by then. Either way I'll probably keep running a petrol car forever
Also getting everyone to keep changing cars (from petrol, to diesel, and now we're going back to petrol again, then EVs) is causing way more environmental harm than someone who bought a petrol 20 years ago and kept running that. So more shortsightedness from government.
But it's still a couple of decades away so hopefully all the issues with EVs will be sorted by then. Either way I'll probably keep running a petrol car forever
Also getting everyone to keep changing cars (from petrol, to diesel, and now we're going back to petrol again, then EVs) is causing way more environmental harm than someone who bought a petrol 20 years ago and kept running that. So more shortsightedness from government.
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I think it's something they'll be aiming for but j doubt it's realistic at this stage. Maybe city centre ban will happen but flat out ban, doubt it.
Fortunately engineers are smarter than that.
Hopefully there will be some truly epic last petrol models made by some of the top manufacturers. That said, production won't end as they'll still be rolling off the production line and being shipped to the Middle East and China etc. What's to stop someone buying a car abroad and importing it back to the UK?
You'll probably find very few countries with ICE cars on sale by then anyway. Once the momentum starts it will be uneconomic for car manufacturers to develop and sell ICE cars anywhere, except perhaps 3rd world countries and you wouldnt want one of their cars I dont think.
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I'd be most worried about the infrastructure, i'm currently sitting in my office in a decommissioning power station looking over at the potential site of a new station. They've been messing around doing ground works and structural soil testing for getting on 7 years with no sign of anything tangible being built for quite a while yet, no-one it seems can procrastinate like the government over important infrastructure decisions 
however cheap promises come easily.
For the idea itself, i think it should be fine as it is a quarter of a century away and hopefully by then we'll have decent range assuming there is a good improvement in battery technology.
however cheap promises come easily.For the idea itself, i think it should be fine as it is a quarter of a century away and hopefully by then we'll have decent range assuming there is a good improvement in battery technology.
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Much like war sees an acceleration of technological development, putting a date of 2040 for electric cars should do the similar, the cost of failure is too high manufacturers will make sure that doesn't happen.
If they combined this with solar panel initiatives and Tesla like battery walls I can see that taking some of the pressure off the grid.
My parents have solar and an electric car. They still make more than they use even only using gas for central heating.
My parents have solar and an electric car. They still make more than they use even only using gas for central heating.
I doubt many engineers are involved in policy making
600 mile range? That's quite an ask. Even my TDI PD130's Passats would only just make that range on a tank if driven sensibly / on a run. I think a genuine 400 mile range, plus genuine 40-60 minute or less full recharging will be roughly where the technology needs to be before it is truly a popular prospect. Capable of properly replacing ICE. Along with the infrastructure in place. Perhaps not electric point at every single petrol station, but probably needs to be at 50% of them. A proper bank of them at every supermarket would go a long way to getting it up and running properly.
You do realise China is aggressively pushing EVs and renewables, harder and faster than any other country.
Even middle East is spending it's oil money on the future.
As for the national grid, even today a million EVs on the road would make the grid more effective than and you just use timers on the charging to charge at low demand, this is why it makes the grid more effecient. Less peaks and troughs.
I think you may have missed the point entirely.
There are all kinds of engineering and software solutions to allow 'smart' charging, efficient use of storage solutions, and things like that. The government has announced it wants to be leaders in this stuff. It was even headline news a few days ago. And this is just the beginning.
How are solar and wind a 'waste of time'?