Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040

Rossi~ said:
I hope so, i just can't imagine replacing batteries and maintenance being all that cheap down the line, are they taking into consideration used cars? Have we got examples of 5 year old modern electric cars and running/maintenance costs?
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Right now it can cost £1000s to replace the batteries, which is why people pay rental and it often costs more than buying petrol. Hopefully they get cheap enough that you don't need to pay that.
 
There's a thread in motors already

Plus its 23 years away, electric cars will be common, cheaper and with plenty of charging stations by then.
 
This isn't a problem if there is a push for local generation and storage. Already some large companies and public buildings switch to UPS+generator power at peak times to reduce their load if the national grid is predicting a spike in usage. Solar tech is getting cheaper and more efficient, hopefully the research in battery technology can continue so a house can store enough energy for a day.

I'd happily switch to EV if I could drive something fun but the weight and cost of current batteries puts me off.
 
I don't get the point of this announcement. By then I'd think the majority of cars sold will be at the least hybrids anyway.
What would be more concerning is any measures to tax/force existing petrol/diesel cars off the road.
 
Tom_ed1987 said:
I don't get the point of this announcement. By then I'd think the majority of cars sold will be at the least hybrids anyway.
What would be more concerning is any measures to tax/force existing petrol/diesel cars off the road.
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TBH it will probably just get frozen, like cars on the old system. The bigger problem will be actually being able to get fuel because petrol stations will close.
 
Nasher said:
And that is when people lose their freedom.
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There will still be the all terrain option, only 1bhp though :D
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Infrastructure is going to be the main issue. Everyone charging their cars over night? Bye to off peak tariffs. Renewables won't cover the demand either. No sun and less wind at night. I'm not even sure renewables are currently servicing the increase in demand for electricity in this country, let alone eating into existing demand.

Pretty sure electric companies use off peak rates to pump water back up into reservoirs. This isn't going to work once off peak rates have dissapeared.

I'm all for electric cars. But our country lacks forward thinking and there will be a mad rush in 2039 to sort everything.
 
Well you can run a petrol car on alcohol. So maybe that is an alternative :)

Start brewing now and by the time it's 2040 you could have a tanker load. Greener than buying a new EV full of batteries.
 
Like many things by the government it doesn't go far enough. What an unambitious target 2040 is, and more importantly how little it will do to help people now.

I wonder what they'll do about classic cars though.
 
balky12 said:
Infrastructure is going to be the main issue. Everyone charging their cars over night? Bye to off peak tariffs. Renewables won't cover the demand either. No sun and less wind at night. I'm not even sure renewables are currently servicing the increase in demand for electricity in this country, let alone eating into existing demand.

Pretty sure electric companies use off peak rates to pump water back up into reservoirs. This isn't going to work once off peak rates have dissapeared.

I'm all for electric cars. But our country lacks forward thinking and there will be a mad rush in 2039 to sort everything.
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Easy, Tesla roof, Tesla storage batteries, Tesla car, Tesla child labour camps on mars.
 
balky12 said:
I'm all for electric cars. But our country lacks forward thinking and there will be a mad rush in 2039 to sort everything.
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Government announces forward thinking plan.

People complain the country isnt forward thinking enough.

:p
 
platypus said:
Like many things by the government it doesn't go far enough. What an unambitious target 2040 is, and more importantly how little it will do to help people now.

I wonder what they'll do about classic cars though.
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It is a pretty pointless target. As you'll be hard pressed to buy a mainstream ice by then anyway.
However I don't think they'll do anything to classic cars as long as the vast majority of the fleet is clean. With the exception of city centers being off limit.
 
Joe T said:
Government announces forward thinking plan.

People complain the country isnt forward thinking enough.

:p
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2040 is a horribly unambitious target. The plan should have been banning ICEs by 2025, and banning ICEs (with certain caveats) from town centres from 2020.
 
Did you even read your own link? Even reading the headline is enough to work out that your thread title is wrong.
 
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