Any cars built prior to the cut-off date will continue to be road worthy albeit with a extortionate vehicle tax. Seems fair to me.
Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040
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Tesla has announced charging car parks for such people. There are also on street charging. One company is fitting devices to existing lamposts which makes it extremely cheap and has a charge rate around 5kw.
There's chargers on the street where I live. I'm not sure how people are charged though.
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I remember a bit on Topgear ages ago talking about how Hydrogen powered cars are more likely to be the future, not electric.
Has there been any progress in that area?
Has there been any progress in that area?
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Agreed, wonder if they'll become rare, expensive classic cars, given you wouldn't be able to buy an ICE car after that date. I also wonder if companies like Aston Martin, Ferrari etc. are ready for the switch. An electric Aston Martin doesn't sound as sexy.
Not really apart from all but onr manufacture giving up on it. Its to costly to make, to hard to store and there's zero infastructure. Oh and it's low energy density. It was never going to be the future and that's been born out. Top gear is entertainment not factual.
So the same as electric cars then
Hopefully they will have some tax exemptions and things like that for classic / modern classic cars but I guess we'll see how punishing the government at the time will be on existing ICE vehicles.
Tbh this announcement doesn't really mean anything as you'd expect the majority of vehicles to be an electric variant by then, not sure if the current route we're going is the right one considering the issues around lithium availability and the source of power generation / fossil fuels but hopefully by 2040 the technology would have matured.
I think the big change we will see by 2040 is automation and the end of private ownership being the standard. Cars you just call up when needed will make far more sense in our ever increasing city populations and yes you could argue we have that option already with taxi drivers but who likes having to talk to them.
Not at all.So the same as electric cars then
How so? In both cases the cost is high, transporting/storing the "fuel" is difficult/spacy (comparing hydrogen fuel cells to the standardized replaceable batteries electric cars will need in future), and the infrastructure is seriously lacking.
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Thread title is misleading, NEW petrol/diesel cars will be banned.
This is a myth, there is no lithium supply issues (other than working conditiond/child labour in some mines, but no different to other products. But there are plans to sort this out)
And the grid in its current state it is already far greener than ice and every year more renewables are added so it keeps getting better.
For a start we have a national grid and a huge amount of charging points, neither can be said for hydrogen. Cost of electric production is cheap unlike hydrogen which uses that electricity but with a massive effecient penalty.
Cells are allready massively cheaper than 10 years ago and continue to decline faster than predictions.
So no, what you said is just plain wrong.
Ideally by 2040 we will have finally gone "in" on nuclear, thus enabling us to stop using fossil fuels completely in power generation and as a bonus enabling wind/solar to use the nuclear networks pumped storage to store their energy too.
We do not have a large amount of charging points, it may have seemed that way when only 5 people per country had an electric car but we are already at the point where they are now having to fight over charging points.
That's not really relevant anyway though as charging points are the past and this thread is about the future. In the future you will drive into a service station, pay a fee and the attendant will slide out your standardized battery pack, slide in a fully charged one and then you will be on your way (hence the comparison to hydrogen fuel cells). The service station will then recharge that pack ready for another customers arrival.
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It is the direction of travel. Recently The electric mini production and Volvo announced making all it's cars electric. As this is Britain you will find that charging points lag well behind electric car ownership.
Also, as it is Britain they will all have different chargers so you can only use specific charge points.
Also, as it is Britain they will all have different chargers so you can only use specific charge points.
Dream on that's not going to happen charging is the future and already here and you are still wrong about what you said.
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I did get to a service station recently and all the charging points were in use.
If you were travelling and needed a charge, it would be annoying to have to wait even longer.