Sale of petrol and diesel cars to be banned by 2040

Are the news so blind??

They are asking how will they make up the massive fall in profits they make on diesel/petrol?

Do they not see what will happen at all?

The government will simply massively hike the price and tax on electric charging stations.
 
atpbx said:
That's not the case, I won't be alone in saying outside of the M25 there will be people who have not seen an electric car at all, let alone seen a couple wired up at the supermarket when they go shopping.

I've never seen a electrical car space occupied.

In fact that is a LIE, I did see one occupied, by a Lamborghini Hurrican last week when I stopped off at the services on the A1 outside Peterborough.
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Or have you just never noticed a electric car?


I came to a strange realisation last year when I turned into one of the M1 service stations to see it full of electric cars charging, inside were loads of people in suits on their laptops. What did I realise? That electric cars are completely viable. Not hydrogen, electric. I also look forward to a world without the 'dag dag' of a diesel engine.


What would be nice to see as standard by 2040 is induction charging loops on the motorway network and smaller batteries in cars, so you can leave the motorway network fully charged and just do the round town bit on batteries.
 
Trifid said:
What would be nice to see as standard by 2040 is induction charging loops on the motorway network and smaller batteries in cars, so you can leave the motorway network fully charged and just do the round town bit on batteries.
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That would be nice but it would probably be horrifically expensive.

Still, if they threw the HS2 money at it..
 
I don't know how I feel about this tbh. Having spent a lot of time in London recently I can certainly see the ole lung benefit however having also had use of an i3...it was awful.
 
Cleisthenes said:
U wot?
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Hold the phone! I didn't compare it to a Cadillac Escalade, or Lincoln Navigator.
After almost 30 years of driving a black cab, I had the pox of sitting behind the wheel, so I claim shotgun at every opportunity.
Sitting in the wide plush rear seat of my Nicole's Croma, reading the i, surrounded by ice cold A/C, walnut fascia, electric everything, mirrors, sunroof, seating controls, (front seats), was infinitely preferable to me than sitting in my neighbour's Sierra Cosworth, one of my sons Golf G.T.i, the other one's wife's Renault 5 turbo, or God forbid, a nephew's Vauxhall Tigra.
0 to 60 in 5 seconds doesn't even figure on my bucket list, leather seats, with a tray that silently slides out at the push of a button, holding a perfectly mixed Grey Goose vodka and tonic, a thin wedge of lime, and a copious amount of ice cubes does.
Oh, and Natalie Dormer turning the pages of my newspaper wouldn't hurt, just don't tell Nicole.
 
Jean-F said:
Hold the phone! I didn't compare it to a Cadillac Escalade, or Lincoln Navigator.
After almost 30 years of driving a black cab, I had the pox of sitting behind the wheel, so I claim shotgun at every opportunity.
Sitting in the wide plush rear seat of my Nicole's Croma, reading the i, surrounded by ice cold A/C, walnut fascia, electric everything, mirrors, sunroof, seating controls, (front seats), was infinitely preferable to me than sitting in my neighbour's Sierra Cosworth, one of my sons Golf G.T.i, the other one's wife's Renault 5 turbo, or God forbid, a nephew's Vauxhall Tigra.
0 to 60 in 5 seconds doesn't even figure on my bucket list, leather seats, with a tray that silently slides out at the push of a button, holding a perfectly mixed Grey Goose vodka and tonic, a thin wedge of lime, and a copious amount of ice cubes does.
Oh, and Natalie Dormer turning the pages of my newspaper wouldn't hurt, just don't tell Nicole.
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You're a funny guy :D
 
Dis86 said:
I don't know how I feel about this tbh. Having spent a lot of time in London recently I can certainly see the ole lung benefit however having also had use of an i3...it was awful.
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Was it awful because it was a quirky supermini, or because it was electric?

I'm guessing you wouldn't have felt the same about a Tesla or an i8.
 
Charging stations will probably skyrocket so we end up paying the equivelant to fossil fuels anyway.

One thing I wonder though is that if all the cars on the road will be electric, car safety will need to be revised as watching a police show recently, apparently when a hybrid/electric car breaks down, they are not allowed to touch it in fear of it being live. If this is true, what happens when 2 collide? :O
 
Hiijinx said:
Charging stations will probably skyrocket so we end up paying the equivelant to fossil fuels anyway.

One thing I wonder though is that if all the cars on the road will be electric, car safety will need to be revised as watching a police show recently, apparently when a hybrid/electric car breaks down, they are not allowed to touch it in fear of it being live. If this is true, what happens when 2 collide? :O
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You get electrocuted, then violently explode when the lithium catches fire :D

As I mentioned earlier, we need carbon fibre to be developed at the same time. Or even fibreglass. An electric motor powering a car with a metal body is asking for trouble.
 
Surely PV cells (tesla tiles..) on your house would be enough to charge a car, especially with the advances in technology.

Because of this I can see a big push towards hydrogen as you could tax the hell out of it like you do with fuel and no one would be any the wiser, you can do the same with electricity as people can create it themselves and so have an element of control/self sufficiency.

Edit @^ Carbon fibre is a conductor too
 
Yea that will be the next big "problem" for the government, people will eventually start generating their own power and largely go off-grid. Then there's no way they can tax them for it. I'm betting road tax will shoot up instead.
 
Bug One said:
Was it awful because it was a quirky supermini, or because it was electric?

I'm guessing you wouldn't have felt the same about a Tesla or an i8.
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Honestly couldn't say. It was the on/off nature of the power delivery that I didn't enjoy.
 
Or GPS tax, then they can do increased cost at rush hour and main roads.
Whilst insurance companies can use it for data.
Bring on self diving cars.
 
This may seem irrelevant, but it isn't really if you think about it.

All it would take is one good 1963 winter, with tens of thousands of people dead (Something that I reckon is actually a quite realistic estimate)

And all of this greenwash will be dropped in an instant.

Does anybody really believe that society relying on a power grid dependent on windmills and solar tiles and transport dependent on EV.s would be able to cope with this???

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_of_1962–63_in_the_United_Kingdom
 
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