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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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Roughneck said:
well I havent had a AMD card since it was ATI, and I have a free-sync monitor. Lemme think it was a 4850 i seem to remember or 970pro cant remember anyway Ive basically had Nvidia cards since the TNT days. I Fancy a change.
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That was where I was. Had ATi from 2003, Half - Life 2 9800 XT bundle up to ATi HD 5870. X850XTX? 1950XTX CrossFire was great with Quake Wars once the drivers were sorted. Had corruption sometimes then moved onto HD5870 CrossFire. Was awesome with BF3 and BF4. Only the Tessellation issues bugged me.

Had the 5870's well past the retired drivers. Fancied a change since so many spoke highly of NVIDIA. Then put one of the 5870 into the Mac Pro. :D
 
TNA said:
Managed to watch about 30 minutes of that. Raja is certainly improving his presentation skills and AMD as a whole seem to be getting better. Still not there yet, as they fail to get the crowd hyped and pumped enough to make a lot of noise and applause, but getting there. Maybe they will nail it for Navi :D

A small part of me is still tempted by Vega 56 :o:p:D
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I just watched the whole thing and what I took away was the feeling that RX Vega was an after-thought. Kinda like 'Well we've built this for the pro markets to do neat stuff but we might as well badge it up for gamers, cut it down a bit and see how it does. Might make a few bob but no biggy'. Anyone else get that?
 
Lol it amazes me on reddit, there are still a load of people expecting the performance to increase by large margins even though AMD have came out and given a very good idea of what to expect in performance.... If that isn't denial I don't know what it is.
 
Chuk_Chuk said:
I'm surprised they didn't go for the price crown. Also judging by how they have been talking a lot about the Finewine technology are they anticipating/hinting that vega will get faster in future. Will be interesting to see what went wrong.
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Fine Wine? Nobody from AMD has been calling it Fine Wine, In fact Raja went on stage and said he doesn't like the Fine Wine name being used. He calls it their user promise.

From 31m 20s
 
WeSbO said:
Lol it amazes me on reddit, there are still a load of people expecting the performance to increase by large margins even though AMD have came out and given a very good idea of what to expect in performance.... If that isn't denial I don't know what it is.
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I also expect performance increase. I am just realistic in also expecting it to get it over a period of 1-2 years, not weeks :p
 
opethdisciple said:
Why oh why did they choose to delay reviews for another two weeks tho? :confused:

Most drawn out product launch I can remember.
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Prob trying to build up a decent stockpile to have some availability at launch. Though these days launches usually = preorder for delivery at an undetermined date. =/
 
Roughneck said:
well I havent had a AMD card since it was ATI, and I have a free-sync monitor. Lemme think it was a 4850 i seem to remember or 970pro cant remember anyway Ive basically had Nvidia cards since the TNT days. I Fancy a change.
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I'm using a 4870 now, just finishing off the orange box I got with the 2900xt I think it was. Never got round to it so the delays are perfect for that right, its still a good game not awful looking.

I'm not surprised to hear they dont support 8.1. I got that impression before that it'd be a positive to have Vega or very new tech as they want to be looking forward concentrating on development most there not improving use of old designs.
So the silver lining to 7950 failing RMA is to use the latest GCN ? Just a hell of a wait they give people

five8five said:
Wouldn't miners look at the Vega 56 with its much lower TDP and price first?
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They are more likely to go that way yea but Im not certain if its been hobbled or not especially. It seems the top end cards are kinda struggling to stabilise or they'd be possibly greater performance. I just want the 56 for all the features at an ok price and it'll run 1080p thats all I want, Im one of those who thinks high shows the majority of a game and ultra is often not needed and so on. Im looking for one thing, that they have raised min frame rates in some appreciable way and if they did do that then Vega was a success imo
 
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Seems like their benchmarks are all still done on intel systems.
 
opethdisciple said:
Why oh why did they choose to delay reviews for another two weeks tho? :confused:

Most drawn out product launch I can remember.
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Most likely reason is they want to spend as much time possible to eak out every bit of performance they can with the driver before those initial reviews, which is a clever thing, as once those reviews hit, they will not be edited in the future and forever show Vega in a good or bad light.
 
If i actually wanted an aio version id have to swap my 650 watt evga psu into my intel system and put the 1kw evga psu from my intel system into my ryzen system. Madness. :o
 
Most games dont use cores enough. Of the two its clocks which is more likely to restrain, I think a very AI intensive game actually requires 8 cores. Come back in five years and could be very different, as I understand it epic genius is required to multi thread an engine properly so cores are under balanced load. How many games on old engines

Gerard said:
If i actually wanted an aio version id have to swap my 650 watt evga psu into my intel system and put the 1kw evga psu from my intel system into my ryzen system. Madness. :o
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I imagine a good quality 650w is still fine. Its the overclocking that really would start to use up power, but just running the stock card even the liquid one is going to work.
Another factor with PSU is age, roughly the capacity declines by 10% a year apparently so maybe just use whichever PSU is the newest
 
Well looks like Vega 56 might be ok for up to 1440p and especially if you've got Freesync.

Looks fairly likely it'll beat the 1070 on perf/£.

However the pricing and performance is general is disappointing given how late in the 14/16nm generation cycle it is.

It's pretty clear they focused on adding transistors for professional workloads, and the gaming side is basically an overclocked Fury.

Although it might be interesting if we get at least one game that properly utilises all of Vega's features. Like using 2xFP16 for everything you can, making sure the tessellation and overlapping culling is working hard, etc.

I imagine Vega has the potential to handily beat the 1070 and 1080 at the respective price points (though not the 1080 Ti), but the problem is it requires more work on the developers side relative to Nvidia.

So if there are no specific Vega optimisations put into a game, it'll be disappointing. But if there are, Vega will represent decent value for money compared to Nvidia.
 
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