Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

[WeSbO]

No one designs high end gpu for gaming anymore. All of them are made for professional workload, HPC etc.

Really ? Raja doesn't agree with you : https://youtu.be/590h3XIUfHg?t=2534 Architecture designed around GAMING AND PRO workloads "Gaming will be around for a long long time" "everyone will be a gamer"
And he seems to think that Nvidia agrees with him aswell when it comes to the importance of gaming.
That and the dGPU gaming market is growing.

 

[Zeed]

Well It was no brainer that Vega will mine good since Vega FE mines good...

 

[melmac]

It doesn't matter now how it games if it's really good for mining!

In an Adored accent just for @Gerard

haha

 

[Fishbait]

I didn't see the sauce, only the numbers

Ditto, was wondering where they'd got that from too.

 

[Fishbait]

Lovely! lol

Yep, Gibbo will be pricing the Vega 56 not at £375, but £500 now.

Shhhhhhhh, don't be giving him any ideas!

 

[Phixsator]

Also...

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gp...vels_of_mining_performance_on_amd_s_rx_vega/1

"
Retail staff reports high levels of mining performance with AMD's RX Vega

A member of Overclockers UK staff, Gibbo, has reported that AMD's Vega series cards offer some insane levels of mining performance with hash rates of between 70 and 100 per card. To put this into perspective RX 580 GPUs can achieve hashrates of around 26-29. "

Lovely! lol

Yep, Gibbo will be pricing the Vega 56 not at £375, but £500 now.

AMD cannot catch a break it seems. Retailers will certainly be all over this with gouging prices, i mean its good business so why not and while cards will be selling AMD will not gain more market share in the gaming department. But i guess selling to miners is better than not selling at all. I just think it stinks, cause i really do like a lot of the things AMD are trying to push in the gaming market.

 

[AMDPower]

As fare as i understand only the normal 64 and 56 version is purchasable outside the bundles. If you want the Aqua or limited edition you have to go with a bundle. I heard several sources saying this and its how i understand it as well.

its a shame and I don't understand AMD reasoning behind this strange decision. I don't fancy paying £700 for the bundle. I would rather just buy a 1080ti and be done with it. If it was £200 of any freesync monitor, that would have been a much better deal but its so limited.

 

[TNA]

Well It was no brainer that Vega will mine good since Vega FE mines good...

What does it mine good? I thought it was crap with ETH, but could be good with something else I suppose.

Shhhhhhhh, don't be giving him any ideas!

I am starting get ideas myself

AMD cannot catch a break it seems. Retailers will certainly be all over this with gouging prices, i mean its good business so why not and while cards will be selling AMD will not gain more market share in the gaming department. But i guess selling to miners is better than not selling at all. I just think it stinks, cause i really do like a lot of the things AMD are trying to push in the gaming market.

If it is true and they mine equivalent to 3 RX 580's then no wonder AMD priced them like that. I would rather AMD made the profit than retailers (more R&D for Navi etc). Sorry OcUK

 

[Fishbait]

I guess it'd mean RX480s/580s may come back down to a decent price again, as they'll all be snapping up the Vega cards.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

What does it mine good?

Considering how old Vega is, my guess is coal.

 

[TNA]

Considering how old Vega is, my guess is coal.

Haha. Good one

 

[five8five]

Considering how old Vega is, my guess is coal.

 

[melmac]

What does it mine good? I thought it was crap with ETH, but could be good with something else I suppose.

Mining possibly could also be why AMD have delayed so much with Vega. Remember the mining craze went even crazier back in April. Look who demand for 480/580 cards have gone through the roof and AMD can't possibly meet that demand with their resources. IF Vega FE was shown to be brilliant at mining, that would have ruined AMD's RX Vega launch. Miners make them good short term money, but, it doesn't increase their presence in rest of the PC world. IT would actually make their image worse as they would always be seen as more expensive option and never in stock.

It could be a big reason why they pushed back the launch and have hampered Vega's FE gaming performance, to build up enough stock so they have enough for Gamers and Miners.

Will see in a few weeks.

 

[DazQ87]

its a shame and I don't understand AMD reasoning behind this strange decision. I don't fancy paying £700 for the bundle. I would rather just buy a 1080ti and be done with it. If it was £200 of any freesync monitor, that would have been a much better deal but its so limited.

I think I saw somewhere that Asus had their own liquid cooled overclocked which presumably has a higher boost clock. If you cant get a regular AIO version without a bundle I'll certainly be getting the Asus.

http://promos.asus.com/US/PR_2017/ROG_AMD_RX_Vega/index.html

At the bottom of the page, but I cant find the other site that had clockspeeds on them.

 

[TNA]

Mining possibly could also be why AMD have delayed so much with Vega. Remember the mining craze went even crazier back in April. Look who demand for 480/580 cards have gone through the roof and AMD can't possibly meet that demand with their resources. IF Vega FE was shown to be brilliant at mining, that would have ruined AMD's RX Vega launch. Miners make them good short term money, but, it doesn't increase their presence in rest of the PC world. IT would actually make their image worse as they would always be seen as more expensive option and never in stock.

It could be a big reason why they pushed back the launch and have hampered Vega's FE gaming performance, to build up enough stock so they have enough for Gamers and Miners.

Will see in a few weeks.

Could very well be.

 

[B12B6]

Really ? Raja doesn't agree with you : https://youtu.be/590h3XIUfHg?t=2534 Architecture designed around GAMING AND PRO workloads "Gaming will be around for a long long time" "everyone will be a gamer"
And he seems to think that Nvidia agrees with him aswell when it comes to the importance of gaming.
That and the dGPU gaming market is growing.

I said they dont design high end gpus to gaming. And they dont. Polaris 10, GP106 and maeby even GP104 are made for gaming. Vega 10 and GP 102 are made for professional workloads. It just happens they make are good gaming chips. Ecpesially GP102 with its cut down parts unnessaccery for gaming. They dont sell enough Vega 10 or GP102 to just sit down and dicide to make a gaming chip. The sell, what? hundred thousand, a million, that is peanuts, its nothing.

Nvidia have just unveiled the first official Volta GPU, the professional-level Tesla V100, and if you want one you’re going to have to fork out $3bn. That’s how much the R&D costs were

Lets say they could earn 300$ per big Volta gaming gpu, they would have to sell 10million to even brake even with their R&D cost. So no, no one designs big chips for gaming.

 

[Phixsator]

its a shame and I don't understand AMD reasoning behind this strange decision. I don't fancy paying £700 for the bundle. I would rather just buy a 1080ti and be done with it. If it was £200 of any freesync monitor, that would have been a much better deal but its so limited.

What i think is the aqua and limited editions are only there to please a certain type of people. You might as well just buy the regular 64 version and AIO it yourself or just put an accelero on it which would be fairly cheap to do and you would get the same level of performance.

 

[Scougar]

And AMD should have exploded in profit with that demand.

 

[D.P.]

Consumer pascal is 128 FP32 cores per SM, only GP100 is 64.

True

 

[Phixsator]

Mining possibly could also be why AMD have delayed so much with Vega. Remember the mining craze went even crazier back in April. Look who demand for 480/580 cards have gone through the roof and AMD can't possibly meet that demand with their resources. IF Vega FE was shown to be brilliant at mining, that would have ruined AMD's RX Vega launch. Miners make them good short term money, but, it doesn't increase their presence in rest of the PC world. IT would actually make their image worse as they would always be seen as more expensive option and never in stock.

It could be a big reason why they pushed back the launch and have hampered Vega's FE gaming performance, to build up enough stock so they have enough for Gamers and Miners.

Will see in a few weeks.

Purposely hampering the VEGA FE's gaming performance makes absolutely no sense even if you want to protect your stock from miners, the price point alone should do that just fine. Also if miners have taught us anything it is that miners will empty out warehouses no matter how much stock there is if the card is something they can make a buck on.