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Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

On or off the hype train?

  • (off) Train has derailed

    Votes: 207 39.2%

  • (on) Overcrowding, standing room only

    Votes: 100 18.9%

  • (never ever got on) Chinese escalator

    Votes: 221 41.9%
  • Total voters
    528
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AMDPower said:
Maybe they are working on this magic 50% performance increase driver. :rolleyes:
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Definitely. If you check the RTG's voting web site, the request for 50% performance increase is voted higher than even the "cure cancer" feature.

After all, what is a measly 50% increase? According to that youtube post mentioned earlier, Vega is capable of double its current performance!

:D

In all seriousness though: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-vega-board-partner-announcements,news-56349.html
  • Sapphire only selling reference models
  • XFX has a banner ad from AMD
  • PowerColor has nothing
Not looking good.
 
BTW, will those "bundle" offers be sold in the UK? I'mm guessing miners won't go after bundles that include 2 games and a Ryzen rebate. Maybe I could try to grab one of those. How do these work, are they direct or can you grab them from retailers? Any word on this from OcUK?
 
silversurfer said:
Basic maths best maths

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Why did AMD stress the benefits of HBCC to games. Is it absolute Yes or No on this or will we see mixed results, maybe only a few games to benefit
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1) HBCC may have an effect on effective memory bandwidth vis a vis hashing ... it could be quite a bit higher than that. We're also still unsure exactly what the new ISA is going to do and how effective it will be at it.

2) HBCC is definitely very applicable to gaming. Just needs AMD to get it tuned and stable in drivers ... I'm assuming it'll be stable for RX release, hopefully tuning isn't long off. It's likely the main reason why Vega will have fewer frame drops and higher minimums than the competition. The guy you quote is totally wrong, HBCC has multiple use cases, it's not confined to workstation, hashing, gaming, data centre or anything else ... it's potentially applicable to all of them.
 
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akarypid said:
BTW, will those "bundle" offers be sold in the UK? I'mm guessing miners won't go after bundles that include 2 games and a Ryzen rebate. Maybe I could try to grab one of those. How do these work, are they direct or can you grab them from retailers? Any word on this from OcUK?
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I'm wondering if it is feasible that smaller time miners may take the bundle then sell everything but the GPU on ebay
 
Lokken86 said:
If these cards actually have that kind of hashrate then they will sell like hotcakes even at £700+ I'm afraid.
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Don't absolutely count on it ... AMD have been mucking around with secure BIOS.

They may attach the hashing secret sauce to a particular BIOS, only compatible with otherwise identical mining SKUs.

But the 56 will be very hard to get hold of anyway, if its gaming performance is as fast as expected.
 
pmc25 said:
Don't absolutely count on it ... AMD have been mucking around with secure BIOS.

They may attach the hashing secret sauce to a particular BIOS, only compatible with otherwise identical mining SKUs.

But the 56 will be very hard to get hold of anyway, if its gaming performance is as fast as expected.
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The issue, is knowing whether the performance improvement affects more than just hashing, it might not be a black and white thing they can disable.
 
pmc25 said:
Don't absolutely count on it ... AMD have been mucking around with secure BIOS.

They may attach the hashing secret sauce to a particular BIOS, only compatible with otherwise identical mining SKUs.

But the 56 will be very hard to get hold of anyway, if its gaming performance is as fast as expected.
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If people could find out how to access that it wont matter. They don't care about gaming performance anyway.

Edit: Actually Gibbo already has his FE hashing at mega speeds so its already possible.
 
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Panos said:
Mate just pray to Zeus to throw a lightning to his rig and burn it, if he gets the Vega 56 before you.

I do the same for the Vega 64, and my prayers might be heard since I am Greek :D
But need to find a damn wild boar on this island to sacrifice, when the Vega 64 arrives....and this island has none
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Scotland has wild boar
 
Diagro said:
You call it tripe.

Yet offer no information that goes against what the article is saying.

I would love it to be true...
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Oh come on, that "article" contains the most obvious nonsense.

Like the assertion that if AMD kept under-cutting nVidia, nVidia would not be allowed to respond or else they'd be hit by anti-monopoly laws (wth??!). And that AMD *wants* to have their cards at 50% output & 100% power, because it "suits them" to do so :p

It's actually hillariously bad.
 
Panos said:
Mate just pray to Zeus to throw a lightning to his rig and burn it, if he gets the Vega 56 before you.

I do the same for the Vega 64, and my prayers might be heard since I am Greek :D
But need to find a damn wild boar on this island to sacrifice, when the Vega 64 arrives....and this island has none
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Leave Mr piggy alone! Head for Lincolnshire's northern border, a Yorkshire man in a wickerman works just as well.
 
akarypid said:
Definitely. If you check the RTG's voting web site, the request for 50% performance increase is voted higher than even the "cure cancer" feature.

After all, what is a measly 50% increase? According to that youtube post mentioned earlier, Vega is capable of double its current performance!

:D

In all seriousness though: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/amd-vega-board-partner-announcements,news-56349.html
  • Sapphire only selling reference models
  • XFX has a banner ad from AMD
  • PowerColor has nothing
Not looking good.
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http://www.powercolor.com/global/products_layer_2.asp?SeriesID=118

And why Toms hardware is a pile of.......
 
pmc25 said:
People shouldn't forget that at launch, a 290X struggled to beat a 770 in a lot of games. That quickly changed to where a 290 non-X demolished the 780. Soon both 290 and 290X beat the 780Ti and Titan Black handsomely .... now, in a lot of games, they have double the frame rates.
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You should go back and check your figures. The 290x was a match for the Titan at launch and was faster than the 780.
 
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