Me and a girl at work are at a similar grade, of a similar age, she's actually paid slightly more. Me and her were having a chat and she said she can't wait to be a mother, she feels like that's her main purpose in life and her career is a side thing. I wonder where we'll both be in 20 years.
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Me and a girl at work are at a similar grade, of a similar age, she's actually paid slightly more. Me and her were having a chat and she said she can't wait to be a mother, she feels like that's her main purpose in life and her career is a side thing. I wonder where we'll both be in 20 years.
Too many women have bought into the fairytale myth that they can "have it all", where the truth is that no one can. There just isn't time. If you want to have a family and be there for them, you won't build a big career. If you're building a big career and working all the time to do it, you can't be there for your family. Women seem to have the option to bail out and have a work life balance that makes more sense without being harshly judged for it as a man is.
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I don't think she feels like she can have it all, I think she feels like work just isn't her main focus, she wants to do well at work no doubt, but that's always going to be a secondary thing to having children. Based on my experience that's probably the case for a lot of women, not all, but a lot. For me as long as there aren't barriers for women who want to do well then that should be enough. Artificial targets are just going to harm the economy in the long term.
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Let's face it, none of the raging lefties have. I considered myself left at one point, not anymore....
They just want an excuse to bang on about diversity is strength and discrimination is how we'll achieve it!
Cult if I ever saw one.....
Edit: Oh yeah and we'll make up a crappload of nonsense to back up our farcical points.
what's hilarious is this exact argument is always said to be a policy of comunist/cultural Marxism societies.
I always find it funny how both sides always accuse each other of the same thing
Depends on what the motive is, clearly childcare is a racket.
it's just funny how on one side its
"government forcing both parents to work so they can raise thier kids in the communist care system"
and the other
"government forcing both parents to work so they can cream money from child care"
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The brain
look at the rat utopia experiments.
im not saying humans are anything like as simple or extreme as rats but there are strong parallels to western society (and any developed society) where there is true abundance for most people.
Well giving people a chance to do other things with their time rather than spending 80% of it in a specially designed office (tech firms ******* love these ergonomic/hollistic living offices), then maybe people would care a bit more about the society they live in.
I do because it's true! The average woman and the average man may not be all that different in terms of mental aptitude but there's two things to consider....
Source
1) the distribution of male inteligence is wider than women, whoose intelligences are distributed closer to the mean.... Men, as a group, have more stupid examples and more geniuses
This plays into 2) which is is apex fallacy.... by concentrating on elite sectors of industry (ceo's Google programmers etc) on one hand whilst comparing it to the simiar average (mean) inteligences of men and women many will say that the disproportionate amount of men at the top is the result of sexism whilst ignoring that the distributions are different with more men at the top (and bottom) of the scale. Strangely certain people don't like to have this pointed out to them when people try to talk about the men's issues that are disproportionattely affecting the men at the lower parts of the scale 'what about the menz' gets trotted out by the usual suspects
That deals with with aptitude side of things.....
Now onto behaviour.......
Now women and men, as groups, clearly do not behave in the same way.... Sexual selection has shaped human behaviour much like it has for pretty much for all other animals that reproduce sexually on earth. You only have to look at accidents, incarceration and suicide rates for starters to see this.
And don't accept the argument that this is down to 'socialisation' (alone) it's total bull#### when Europeans went to the new world, Africa and Australia did we find any humans not in definded gender roles? Did we find men largely performing the same roles of hunter gatherer /warrior whilst women did the majority of the domestic and child rearing work or not?
Am I to assume that proponents of the socialisation hypothesis for gender roles believe that some how all men across the world decided to agree on similar gendered roles and managed to enforce them over millenia and thousands of miles?
The difference in behaviour in terms of jobs pursued is actually often worse in more egalitarian countries like in scandanavia where women and men are free to pursue jobs better matched to their personal proclivities as opposed to less egalitarian countries where more women go into stem professions or start their own businesses as thats the best way for them to get on in their societies
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Women can be stronger and faster than 95% of men, as showed by women's athletics. They just have to have been born a man, that's all
http://www.wnd.com/2017/03/female-athletes-crushed-by-women-who-were-once-men/
Another fine product of the "we must all be absolutely equal" ideology.
Don't agree there. A significant proportion of modern construction doesn't require much significant physical ability. Things like electricians, plumbers, crane and other vehicle operators to name a few, even then many of the more physical jobs could be done by a significant proportion of women as well, for example bricklaying. Your body adapts, both for men and women.
It's another example of an industry that is dominated by one sex, both by the historical views (men work in construction, women work in nursing) and the culture that goes with it. It's stereotyping.
Yeah, has nothing to do with the fact that most woman (note I said most not all!) just don't want to do those types of jobs...
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You haven't got a clue about how physically demanding construction is. You really haven't.
I'm an electrician and consider myself in very good physical shape. I work out and I ride a road bike regularly, yet I return home from work absolutely battered. By Thursday I'm flagging and thankful that I've prepared my working week so that by Friday I'm doing some testing and inspection rather than knocking chunks out of walls again.
Plumbers retire from work with wrecked knees.
Brick laying. Absolutely hilarious. I can guarantee that you've never picked up a trowel in your entire life.
Your body doesn't adapt, it recovers. Over and over again. I'm 35 and have pains in my fingers every once in a while, pins and needles. Doctors say it is the early onset of arthritis. That's because the job does damage to your body and I'm a relatively very healthy male, doctors agree.
Women don't adapt to these conditions they suffer. They get more repetitive strain injuries, more broken bones and more tired out.
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Yes, I was about so say the same. Most of these jobs are physically challenging in some way or another. Spending all your days reaching under floorboards to run pipe or cable is just not something most women are robust enough to endure if they have a choice. Which thanks to a fairly generous welfare system, they do.
And the politics right have been hijacked by the alt right.
Where does it leave us that are in the middle?
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I had a female apprentice once. She was a nice kid, keen to learn, everything you want from an apprentice. So I took her on to site and showed her the ropes. It blew her mind how hard the job was, eventually she just decided that it was too much, not for her. I knew it was coming, when she was struggling to lift the smallest drums of cable, chase boxes into walls. The vibrations from the power tools, the bite from a power drill when it gets caught and tries to rip your arm off. Even the biggest toughest guys can get their wrist yanked out by a drill getting caught.