Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?


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Given the comment about "how does she know she can't get pregnant!" I would now put all my savings on her having Snows baby.
You heard it here first.

Yes they've brought it up half a dozen times now, and although Dario never got her up the duff it's basically 100% certain that some Lord Of Light-powered swimmers will get the job done. It's foreshadowed as heavy-handedly as the knife-in-the-heart business was.
 
Before and after the whole R+L=J gymnastics, and it always fitted better and was more elegant - not as expected as R+L=J, still barsteward, still Jon, still rightful heir but bearing resemblance to his parents and without creating weird plot devices where "promise me Ned" means multiple layers of lies wrecking Robert and Ned's friendship or where Jon has to go jiggy with his own aunt or even the whole "dude, your daddy already had one son called Aegon - what gives" brow twisters.
I don't see how him being the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna is a 'weird plot device'. It's simply the plot and you just happen to not like it.
I also don't see how you've concluded that 'all the internet forums' were saying that Robert was his dad and that it would be more fitting and elegant. It's not what everyone has been saying (apart from a few oddballs with their halfarsed theories), and it makes no sense unless you're relying on the black haired Baratheon thing.
Why would Ned have kept it a secret from him? Why would it have been a better story?

I think you're getting a bit carried away in your quest to find things to complain about tbh
Viserys was always described as looking like Rhaegar but slightly lesser in every way.

Fair enough. Perhaps I've been swayed by the odd bit of fan art and the book depiction.
 
I was half expecting Danny to die TBH. Been a lot of foreshadowing on that one. Maybe she will. With the Jon/Aegon revelation, she's kinda surplus to requirements.

Plus she'd be a bloody awful ruler. Basically Game of Thrones' version of Kim Jon-un; "I am your supreme ruler. You will be a happy subject. Adore me or die."
 
Anyone else a bit disappointed by the ease with which Viserion melted the ancient and apparently heavily spell-laden wall? I mean seriously, the wall is 100 metres thick and has stood for aeons and Viserion burns through it in 5 minutes flat? Seems like the producers really wanted to get that over in a hurry.

Think I read something about Bran going beyond the wall affected the magic spell
 
Given the comment about "how does she know she can't get pregnant!" I would now put all my savings on her having Snows baby.
You heard it here first.
I've long thought the prince that was promised was going to be their kid. A song of ice and fire and all that.
 
I don't see how him being the son of Rhaegar and Lyanna is a 'weird plot device'. It's simply the plot and you just happen to not like it.

When it leads to iffy pr0n scene between family members, that's right, I don't like it that much anymore.

I also don't see how you've concluded that 'all the internet forums' were saying that Robert was his dad and that it would be more fitting and elegant. It's not what everyone has been saying (apart from a few oddballs with their halfarsed theories), and it makes no sense unless you're relying on the black haired Baratheon thing.

It makes perfect sense. Look how many terrible plot holes the whole R+L=J lead us into. But I also never quite understood this dire need of legitimising Jons ancestry with Targaryen blood line. They were terrible rulers. They were feared only because of their ruthlessness, madness and zoo of legendary creatures which, as everything in their ancestry, they urinated away and drove to extinction. In the end literally the entire Westeros stood up to them. So why would we, the viewers, want Jon to be (yet another) Aegon Targaryen, legitimate or otherwise?

Why would Ned have kept it a secret from him? Why would it have been a better story?

To save his life from the Lannisters of course. The entire Lannister claim to throne was constructed on switching sides to rebellion at the last minute (literally, Jamie was mad King's guard to the last day) and then opening legs to drunken and mourning Baratheon. That would be irrelevant if Robert already had a heir.
But they preferred long predicted fan fiction where Jon ended up in bed with his aunt. Please the kids it did - as we can see above - many an internaut fapped to that, but I kind of lost my appetite - I've no one to cheer for in GoT S08. All of these humans are tainted and terrible. I kind of want Night King to just end the story cycle.

I think you're getting a bit carried away in your quest to find things to complain about tbh

Oh, there is plenty of **** to complain about. Season seven was written by couple of 10 year olds.
 
Lots of crying over spilt fan theories. GRRM always said that he had a clear vision and that he was going to go for it even if people managed to work it out. That is what has happened. It feels a lot more clumsy because it's poorly written and rushed TV rather than the core story itself being any better or worse.

I also don't get the idea of ancestry suddenly making likeable characters not likeable (I really just mean Jon here - Daenerys I find extremely tedious). Both J and D have a fairly similar story - denied their birthright but that has caused them to become decent human beings and claw what they "deserve" back.

Finally, I don't get the big deal being made over the incest in the latest ep. Have people magically forgotten how rife it has been throughout the series?
 
So glad Littlefingers dead, terrible character this last season, just annoying.

Good ending but it's all a bit predictable at the moment since they overtook the books, there's no twists that you don't see coming anymore
 
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