Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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Who will rule Westeros?


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Rhaeger was obviously a fair bit older than Daenerys (see birth/death years), hence why she and Jon are only a year apart in age.

Cheers for clearing that up. Makes sense now.

What did peoples think to Tyrian at the end? Made it look like he was upset at them banging and didnt know what to do with him self whilst creeping about in the shadows.
 
Pretty good to see things finally happening.

I'm not sure why they redibly accept undeath on one hand withe the mountain, lord of lights followers etc but are so freaked out by the undead army. I hope they tie up all this, at very least explain the LoL.
Cos that whole story was very interesting, the red witch being as ancient as white walkers..
The mountain isn't undead, Qyburn saved him from death at great cost. He never died.

And those saved by the lord of light are not undead in the same sense, they're more resurrected.
 
Cheers for clearing that up. Makes sense now.

What did peoples think to Tyrian at the end? Made it look like he was upset at them banging and didnt know what to do with him self whilst creeping about in the shadows.

Peter Dinklage talked about it in the behind the episode thing. Tyrion is concerned that now is completely the wrong place/time for them to be getting involved with one another and that their feelings for one another are going to get in the way of their leadership decisions - it goes back to that Aemon Targaryen scene (see below) and that often these passionate trysts historically don't end well.

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The mountain isn't undead, Qyburn saved him from death at great cost. He never died.

And those saved by the lord of light are not undead in the same sense, they're more resurrected.

I did think it was a nice touch that Qyburn didnt seem scared by the wight, rather he seemed fascinated and intrigued, as if he was thinking ahh the things I could do if I knew how this worked
 
Jaime stabbed the mad King to save 500,000 people, Cersei was possibly condemming all of the people of the Capital (or Westeros) to either the undead or war with the winners......and Jaime rides off, he should have become Queenslayer too :p
 
Ffs this arguing is stupid and annoying.

'king A. Some people need to start using PMs cos no one else in the thread is remoptely interested in two idiots sniping at each other in a childish attempt to get the last word. one fo you likes the season, one of you doesn't - if you're that bothered about the other's stance you have very very sad lives.

how about a call to ban these two from the thread as they're filling it up w/ pointless infantile bickering no that hasn't gone anywhere in the past 20 posts beyond a spat fest about who can use quote tags.
 
Generally a good episode. Ice fire working on an ice wall was a bit weird but there you go. One disappointment for me was the death of Littlefinger. After all his plots and scheming the death felt a little abrupt and not quite as epic as I hoped.

You can tell they are rushing to finish now but still it's blinking compelling viewing.
 
I was doing a bit of a mental comparison in my head between the heads of the houses at the start of S1 and the heads now. One thing that really stood out to me is, assuming that Jon's heritage means he renounces any claim over Winterfell, the most powerful houses in the north are now likely to be headed by a compilation of powerful women who look like some of the more competent leaders that have existed in the show. Arya and Sansa for house Stark are likely to be an absolute force to be reckoned with, I've got a lot of time for mini-Mormont (certainly wouldn't mess with her), and if the Iron Island situation pans out well then Yara is the head of House Greyjoy. With the exception of one ruler, the women in GoT seem to be infinitely more competent than the men (and even in Cersei's case you could argue that she not incompetent, just mental).

Obviously you need to discount Dorne, but my God everyone over there appears to be useless anyway.
 
The only thing that bugged me about that episode really, was the feeling that the writers/producers created an episode and thought "Oh ****, what about the Night King and white walkers?!" and then just decided to slap it at the end with the dragon taking down the wall in what felt like 5 minutes.
I found it cheap, very cheap. But then again, this season has been terrible for just being cheap and slapping stuff together because they know the recipe of action and shock sells, so **** you, you'll watch it.

Nice to see lose ends being tied and things coming together. But executed badly IMO, I'm disappointed but still entertained. I suppose, like the team behind the show, I too can't wait for it to finish now.
 
Personally I cant see this happening, and if it does I wont be surprised as we all know how inconsistent plot lines can be...

I only say this because Jons hand was seriously burned whilst saving LC Mormont from a WW. If his hand can burn so easily, then so can the rest of him.

GRRM has also said (citation needed) that he never intended that all of the Targaryen's be fire proof and that Dany's funeral pyre survival was a one off, or related to 'blood magic'. This is then negated by the scene with the Khals though in TV continuity... so, as you say, all bets are off.

Jon did burn, but he also died and was brought back by the Lord of Light, a god of fire, so there is always that out, too.
 
This is beyond tedious. It's like dealing with drunkenmaster possessed by easyrider.

LMAO, being compared to a mix of those two, probably the most brutal insult I have ever seen on this forum. :D
wall is supposed to be 'magic', dragons are supposed to be 'magic', seems reasonable enough in context... regular fire probs won't work but dragon fire has special qualities (just like dragon glass, Valyrian steel etc.. has special qualities).

Meh regardless of the "magic creature yo" concept, for me it was all too quick and convenient. But yeah, I understand why they need to rush it along to get to the end game and at least I guess we will have a proper ending. :)
 
GRRM has also said (citation needed) that he never intended that all of the Targaryen's be fire proof and that Dany's funeral pyre survival was a one off, or related to 'blood magic'. This is then negated by the scene with the Khals though in TV continuity... so, as you say, all bets are off.

Jon did burn, but he also died and was brought back by the Lord of Light, a god of fire, so there is always that out, too.
Not really a one off, early in S1 she gets in a very hot bath and doesn't flinch, she also handles a very hot dragon egg and it doesn't mark her hand.
 
Personally I cant see this happening, and if it does I wont be surprised as we all know how inconsistent plot lines can be...

I only say this because Jons hand was seriously burned whilst saving LC Mormont from a WW. If his hand can burn so easily, then so can the rest of him.

Maybe Danys is fireproof because of two Targaryen parents and as Jon has a Stark for one stops that him being fireproof.

Also why is everyone so upset about the Dany/Jon sex (when it's his aunt). but nobody really seems to care about the brother/sister sex.
 
I was doing a bit of a mental comparison in my head between the heads of the houses at the start of S1 and the heads now. One thing that really stood out to me is, assuming that Jon's heritage means he renounces any claim over Winterfell, the most powerful houses in the north are now likely to be headed by a compilation of powerful women who look like some of the more competent leaders that have existed in the show. Arya and Sansa for house Stark are likely to be an absolute force to be reckoned with, I've got a lot of time for mini-Mormont (certainly wouldn't mess with her), and if the Iron Island situation pans out well then Yara is the head of House Greyjoy. With the exception of one ruler, the women in GoT seem to be infinitely more competent than the men (and even in Cersei's case you could argue that she not incompetent, just mental).

Well GRRM has been quite a vocal feminist and strangely...a pacifist.

Generally a good episode. Ice fire working on an ice wall was a bit weird but there you go.

I just assumed it was higher temperature flame...blue flame is generally hotter than red/yellow, there are exceptions of course.
 
That's 2 people now that pushed cersei to have the mountain kill them, she bottled it both times. I wonder who will kill her, has to be Jamie or tyrion surely?
 
I just assumed it was higher temperature flame...blue flame is generally hotter than red/yellow, there are exceptions of course.
The blue is in all probability just to distinguish the fire from the non-wight dragons, and there is as yet zero indication (other than in our minds grasping for explanations) that it has properties any different to regular dragon fire.
 
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