Poll: Winter Is Coming - HBO's A Game of Thrones [READ WARNING]

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So the latest working theory on Bran = Night King? This:

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Stark Sigil as a marching formation? Interesting and amazing spot by some nerdy sod! :p
 
Where on earth has the wall gone in that pic? There didn't appear to be any aftermath whatsoever. Tiny little dragon destroys the entire thing within seconds and they just walk on through like it didn't even exist. :p Got to be the most terribly done scene in recent seasons.
 
Where on earth has the wall gone in that pic? There didn't appear to be any aftermath whatsoever. Tiny little dragon destroys the entire thing within seconds and they just walk on through like it didn't even exist. :p Got to be the most terribly done scene in recent seasons.

The dragon only destroyed the end of the wall that goes to the edge of the sea, all the broken ice fell into the water.
 
I'm not a stupid man, but I cannot fathom how Bran can be the Night King. How can he be two different people at once?

It requires somewhat comical number of overlapping grandfather paradoxes: in the future (of Bran, the Three Eyed Raven residing in Winterfell as watched by us in TV show), Bran seers to the ancient past (like he did to the Lyana scene), and wargs into the body of the man Children of Forest turned into the first white walker (like he did into body of Hodor), and for whatever reason either his original body in the future, or the act of being turned into white walker, severs his "selfness" from the body (of Bran, the crippled man in Winterfel), he may (paradoxically) become the immortal Night King, with all the powers of three eyed raven, and ability to both move across time to the past and foresee the future (as memories of Bran travelling to Bran's past). And therefore one day in the Night Kings future - he will be able to remember (or foresee in his timeline) the actions of men and go against his Bran/future/past self (like the fact he can always see Brans crows or ravens, because he remembers using those crows or ravens as Bran. Are you getting a headache yet? So get this - Children of The Forest would create Bran, the White Walker to defend themselves from Bran, the Three Eyed Raven, affecting their future in the past. In the most "terminator killing terminator" like time loop - the first time Bran (the Three Eyed Raven) travelled to the scene of White Walker creation - he would be traveling to the unfulfilled timeline - he would be watching a future himself being turned into white walker, before the past is affected by his actions in the future (which is why the man being turned doesn't have white "warged" eyes).
You have to imagine this on the level of complete mind**** - what if Bran returned multiple times to the same scene in the past, would he see another Bran standing there watching the same scene (in similar way as original Three Eyed Raven could) and could he interact, help or even warg into the other Bran, time traveller?

All that looping self fulfilling prophecy scenario is based on a single sentence spoken by Child of The Forest describing creation of White Walkers "we created white walkers because we had to defend ourselves from you", speculation that "you" wasn't you - the mankind, but you - Bran.
 
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I will be so annoyed if the Bran-Night King thing is 'true', it's only slightly less ridiculous than a sword blinking IMO.

It's such a convoluted supposition.

Sadly I wouldn't put it past D&D, seeing as they seem to have run out of ideas.
 
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Though thinking about it, Cersei didn't seem to believe in the undead and was genuinely scared/shocked when it came at her, Euron was surprised also, so the whole we planned this the whole time thing, seems a bit odd. If the undead thing wasn't true or it didn't seem very threatening how would that have played out?
I thought pretty much this. What was their fallback?
 
No zombie-Direwolf Summer either. :(

I did enjoy the episode though. I wonder if Jon will end up riding the Ice-Dragon if the idea (mentioned already in this thread) that he is immune to Ice.

Then again, the dragon appears to breathe blue flame, so it would not do him much good if that is the case.

In the artwork for season 7 there I believe there is an image of him with a blue eye.
 
Though thinking about it, Cersei didn't seem to believe in the undead and was genuinely scared/shocked when it came at her, Euron was surprised also, so the whole we planned this the whole time thing, seems a bit odd. If the undead thing wasn't true or it didn't seem very threatening how would that have played out?

They started with him having a go at Theon, making a scene and getting smacked down. I guess they had something planned where it'd snowball. Undead turns up and he uses that instead.
 
Where on earth has the wall gone in that pic? There didn't appear to be any aftermath whatsoever. Tiny little dragon destroys the entire thing within seconds and they just walk on through like it didn't even exist. :p Got to be the most terribly done scene in recent seasons.

Thought it looked kinda neat. It blew a hole through to the other side and caused a domino collapse.
Wasn't just seconds really either. I mean we could have sat and watched it burn a hole for 25 minutes if that'd be a more realistic depiction of an undead dragon blasting a hole in a 700ft wall but I don't think that'd make very good tv (similar to the 'we didn't watch them for every step of their journey from a to b' complaints).
That pic and in the ep you can clearly see them coming down the rubble into the south side btw, it's not like it's just vanished although a lot went into the sea...
 
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