Boy removed from school in transgender rights row

Yea I think a few people have over complicated this.

A 6 year old child keeps turning up at school changing his/ her name and changing clothes(I'm guessing uniform) depending on what they identify as that day.

This has confused another 6 year old who has questioned this with them and his parents.

Now the parents are concerned that their child might get in trouble for mis-gendering the other child due to some loose bullying policy even though he/she doesn't know what he/she is.

At least that's how I read it.
 
And even though there's no evidence the child would be disciplined in such a way. But hey, those headlines aren't gonna write themselves!
 
billysielu said:
What I don't get is why that kid was even at a religious school to begin with. The religion itself discriminates against them. What are they gonna do, ban religion next?
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I don't get why a religion should have any say in schooling to begin with. Especially if primarily state funding.

A ban on religion sounds marvellous, sadly it's not likely to happen for a few more generations.
 
cheesyboy said:
All of the 12 or so nearest primary schools to me (approx 8 mile radius) are tied to a religion. It's often pretty hard not to send your kids to a religious school.

Thanks to the CofE school, my son (aged 7) believes in god. He's the only one in the house who does. Hoping he'll grow out of it but, heck, it doesn't really matter if he doesn't - as long as it doesn't lead him down the sort of intolerant path you see from the parents in this story.
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My kids attend a CofE school, had a few chats with my son about God and why I dont believe it/religion. Now doesn't believe it because "daddy" :p but hopefully have opened him up to thinking a bit more for himself about these things. Personally i think religion should be a taught subject(a variety of religions) but never forced onto kids in a one faith school.

Usual suspects banging on about Muslamics again.
 
billysielu said:
They're christians... they believe in marriage between a man and woman. Thats why they chose the school.
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Transgenderism and transvestitism have little to do with homosexuality. I also doubt that these issues were at the forefront of their mind when choosing the school.

billysielu said:
The law contradicts their religion. Its a choice between not discriminating against the trans kid (or their parents), and respecting the religious beliefs of others. They obviously decided gender trumped religion. Which is par for the course in 2017.
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Transgenderism isn't really well understood or ruled upon by the Church of England. They don't really have a stance on it. It's an ongoing debate, but it won't be resolved any time soon.

billysielu said:
What I don't get is why that kid was even at a religious school to begin with. The religion itself discriminates against them. What are they gonna do, ban religion next?
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Kids start school at 4 or 5. The "confused" (being charitable) child is 6. You think they should have seen this coming? Or move schools now that it's "an issue"? Nope. Let the kids with the mental parents move, they're the unhappy ones.
 
Gender is a physiological status not a mental one. When will people realise that no matter what procedures you go through and what mental illnesses you're unfortunate enough to suffer from, you're still either a boy or a girl.
 
Participant said:
Gender is a physiological status not a mental one. When will people realise that no matter what procedures you go through and what mental illnesses you're unfortunate enough to suffer from, you're still either a boy or a girl.
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Sex =/= gender. Would that it were so simple.
 
Vonhelmet said:
Funny how they whinge on about intolerant Muslim right until there's something they want to be intolerant about themselves.
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Nice soundbite, but unfortunately it's not as neat and tidy as that whereby all intolerance is conveniently equal.

Vonhelmet said:
Sex =/= gender. Would that it were so simple.
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Sex does equal gender. Gender is a biological status not an opinion about one's self. I know there are articles that say differently, but they only exist to appease people.
 
Wonder how long it's going to be before some poor sod ends up in jail for referring to bloke on Twitter as a bloke, but then having the full force of the gender thought police come crashing down on him because it turns out that the bloke isn't a bloke at all but identifies as a red panda or something and has then gone crying to the police about hate crimes?
 
Dis86 said:
Not really. The complication is nobody knows wtf to call this kid that cant decide if it's a Jonny or a Sally.
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Just ask the kid? It's not really that hard to ask them how they'd like to be addressed, and if in doubt just use neutral pronouns.

Again we have a thread complaining about liberals kicking up a fuss when it's the non-liberal parents causing the trouble.

Mrs Rowe said: "We believe he [the older boy] was under stress by the confusion that was caused by having a boy in his class that decided that they were going to have a girl's name and dress as a girl."
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This just screams of a lack of education about gender and just accepting people that are ultimately causing you no harm. Sit both kids down with the parents and maybe a psychologist and have a conversation about it instead removing the kid from the school, what kind of message does that send?
 
(did I miss it) but for fear of identifying the school or 'trans-gender' child we have little information about the behaviour of the 'transgender' child,
or the behaviour of the other children at the school (is there consternation amongst them), or feelings of their parents,
so cannot really evaluate the facts, or whether withdrawing the child from school could be justified ?

- maybe the school just has inadequate policies, child&teacher education, to manage the situation, so an investiagtion into that should be made, head resign etc.
 
explicit4u said:
Just ask the kid? It's not really that hard to ask them how they'd like to be addressed, and if in doubt just use neutral pronouns.

Again we have a thread complaining about liberals kicking up a fuss when it's the non-liberal parents causing the trouble.



This just screams of a lack of education about gender and just accepting people that are ultimately causing you no harm. Sit both kids down with the parents and maybe a psychologist and have a conversation about it instead removing the kid from the school, what kind of message does that send?
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Course it screams of that. The kid is 6 ffs! 6! A 6 year old shouldn't have to worry about what gender to use to refer to someone.
 
jpaul said:
(did I miss it) but for fear of identifying the school or 'trans-gender' child we have little information about the behaviour of the 'transgender' child,
or the behaviour of the other children at the school (is there consternation amongst them), or feelings of their parents,
so cannot really evaluate the facts, or whether withdrawing the child from school could be justified ?

- maybe the school just has inadequate policies, child&teacher education, to manage the situation, so an investiagtion into that should be made, head resign etc.
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So you leap from saying that there's a total lack of facts to concluding that the head should resign. Um, ok...
 
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Malevolence said:
Wonder how long it's going to be before some poor sod ends up in jail for referring to bloke on Twitter as a bloke, but then having the full force of the gender thought police come crashing down on him because it turns out that the bloke isn't a bloke at all but identifies as a red panda or something and has then gone crying to the police about hate crimes?
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Cats and dogs living together.
 
Listened to the parents on R4 this am my thoughts were "The kid seems to be picking up their prejudices."

My second thought was "Why on earth is a 6 year old having gender issues?".
 
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