I suppose the one positive so far is that this person hasn't been very successful.
A failed bomb and then attempting to leave the country by the busiest ferry port during a manhunt.
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I suppose the one positive so far is that this person hasn't been very successful.
A failed bomb and then attempting to leave the country by the busiest ferry port during a manhunt.
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Moreover, they were concerned they would not be able to track him, as reliably, if they let he leave for Europe,
they need to ensure that the group responsible are doubtful on mechanism used to identify them, if they believe CCTV was responsible but they had actually been following them by more complex (not to be revealed) mechanism, then that protects the technique.
(It remains curious that despite CCTV, the jogger who pushed the girl is not yet identified - or once again, do they not want to reveal capabilities)
Equally if they do recommence the internet/encryption dialogue, maybe just diversion, if they already had firmware on their phones to report the unencrypted communication,
the unjustified sense of security, persists.
they need to ensure that the group responsible are doubtful on mechanism used to identify them, if they believe CCTV was responsible but they had actually been following them by more complex (not to be revealed) mechanism, then that protects the technique.
(It remains curious that despite CCTV, the jogger who pushed the girl is not yet identified - or once again, do they not want to reveal capabilities)
Equally if they do recommence the internet/encryption dialogue, maybe just diversion, if they already had firmware on their phones to report the unencrypted communication,
the unjustified sense of security, persists.
I'm not sure why people keep saying this, it's just an image of a person. The only way he's getting ID'd is if someone recognises him and comes forward, which is likely how the initial incorrect ID happened.
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So this idiot can't bomb right and can't escape right either. He literally had one job and failed. Spectacularly.
Then to escape he goes to the busiest port in the UK, the day after the bombing? Christ, I bet even IS are laughing at him. Idiot.
Then to escape he goes to the busiest port in the UK, the day after the bombing? Christ, I bet even IS are laughing at him. Idiot.
Is that surprising? Future rocket scientists don't become radicalised, clueless, troubled young men do.
To me this does seem odd! We apparently can't track someone who attacked someone in a bridge? There should be CCTV on busses along that bridge and along the route, shouldn't be too hard. I don't know what is going on with that one. But if the police genuinely cannot track a person that pushes someone on a bridge we have problems if we are meant to be dealing with terrorists! I get the feeling the police didn't want to investigate that
There aren't enough police to investigate crimes against actual people in London, and I imagine the same is true elsewhere.
They're personal anecdotes but I think they apply;
Guys on a moped tried to mug me for my phone - I kept hold of it and they rode off, 60 seconds later another pair of different guys tried - again I kept hold and they rode off, (never experienced anything like it) I reported it to Shoreditch police station, there weren't any officers around to deal with it, the ones I did find looked like they'd been running a marathon - there were no resources left, it was frankly shocking. I officially reported it, absolutely nothing back from the police, nor have they contacted the premises to get the CCTV footage. (this was all about 3 months ago) nothing at all happened.
In contrast someone pick-pocketed my phone from my bag, I reported it online - I've been contacted about 20 times by all manner of people trying to investigate it, stacks of emails, stacks of phone calls - for something worth a few hundred quid that I had blocked the moment it was nicked, everyone knows it's totally gone.
TLDR
It seems that if you get something stolen and you need a "virtual policeman" to send you emails and stuff, get a crime number for insurance etc, that's fine.. However if anything happens to you physically that requires an investigation - forget it, even if you almost end up under a bus.
- a sad reflection
OOI nec face recognition technology & video , need one of those on the bridge - can they use the passport photo database for recognition ?
yes god damn it, arrest all those window cleaners already FFS
The joys of living in a ****hole.
How does any of that contribute towards telling you the person's identity?
You're not seriously comparing the resources involved in investigating the two incidents, are you?
I could be talking out of my ass, but I think we're seeing a similar problem in the police force, as we are with the NHS from a ministerial level.
The NHS is struggling, so government ministers endlessly manipulate various targets to make it look like they're doing ok - such as hammering cancer diagnosis, meanwhile many other areas which don't abide by targets suffer quite badly - such as my Eczema which drove me nuts, took over a year and I ended up going private. Now of course I'm not saying I should get priority over a cancer patient - but the point is I had no priority at all, I got no treatment so I just went and bought it out of my own pocket.
I think the same thing is happening with the police force, it's been cut to the point where it can't deal the amount of work, and so work gets prioritised and queued based on targets, if it's a terrorist incident or something involving something very serious - it gets resources thrown at it (not going to argue with that) but the problem is at the lower end, regular crime mostly gets forgotten, police have less visibility and the only time you see them is if you become a victim of serious crime, or you get pulled for speeding, you simply don't see police on the streets that much anymore.
The NHS is struggling, so government ministers endlessly manipulate various targets to make it look like they're doing ok - such as hammering cancer diagnosis, meanwhile many other areas which don't abide by targets suffer quite badly - such as my Eczema which drove me nuts, took over a year and I ended up going private. Now of course I'm not saying I should get priority over a cancer patient - but the point is I had no priority at all, I got no treatment so I just went and bought it out of my own pocket.
I think the same thing is happening with the police force, it's been cut to the point where it can't deal the amount of work, and so work gets prioritised and queued based on targets, if it's a terrorist incident or something involving something very serious - it gets resources thrown at it (not going to argue with that) but the problem is at the lower end, regular crime mostly gets forgotten, police have less visibility and the only time you see them is if you become a victim of serious crime, or you get pulled for speeding, you simply don't see police on the streets that much anymore.
And starting on it as soon as possible.
The faster you start on such a task the easier it is by far as you have far less material to sort through, and given it started on a train (no doubt equipped with CCTV) it will have been very easy to spot roughly when the bag was dropped and the person carrying it, which then means you have a much easier time backtracking it (as the station CCTV will let you see them get on the train and then follow back).
No...that's pretty accurate. Policing now is massively reactive rather than pro-active.