Apple slows your iPhone down "to conserve battery"

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Nevakonaza said:
If only the days of batteries been removable came back.
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Or just put a decent size battery in, seeing as they increase in capacity by 5% a year on average we haven't seen the battery increase in phones.
With larger battery means you can implement battery managment. To vastly extend life. But they don't care about that as they want to sell newer phones.
I have a P2 5000mah battery. Means I can charge to 80% and still last most days easily. But nothing built in and automatic for that, have to use a battery alarm and unplug it.
They could also implement smart charging, when charging overnight it doesn't need to be fast, which means you could charge slower and lower battery temp, which is another thing that kills the life of lithium ion.

Removable batteries are a headache for things like waterproofing a feature I would love and is on most high end phones these days.
 
You go swimming with your phone do you? If not and it’s a wet day, put it in your jacket pocket. How did we manage in wet days with brick phones? I don’t remember anyone complaining unless they dropped it in a puddle.
 
And you get caught out side without a coat then what? You and your phone gets extremely wet and you have to go through thedrying and hope it works. It's an extremely useful feature which many people want.
 
I put it up my jumper or sleeve or ran for cover. There was always somewhere to shelter quickly.
 
V F said:
Utter lol? So I just stand in the rain and let myself get soaked do I?
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Yes, what else do you do?
Came home from a cider festival in the summer, beautiful hot summers day. Night fell, got on a train to get home, on the mile walk home from the station it started hammering it down. By the time I got home even my boxers where wet. What would you have done sat in a bus shelter most of the night?
This isn't exactly uncommon either.


Even more so for those of us who work outside and have to decide what to wear at start of shift.
 
Minstadave said:
I don’t disagree with that and never have.

The problem is if the phones are shutting down aren’t they defective? Even if they’re not defective Apple shouldn’t be hiding their meddling. Especially when said meddling brings huge benefits to Apple when hidden from the customer.
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If they’re defective then presumably all the Samsung, LG, and every other brand of phone are also defective. ALL phones do this, it’s not an Apple specific issue. The only variability here is Apple decided to slow devices down to try and stop them shutting off, rather than the other manufacturers (and Apple prior to this) just allowing them to do so.
 
always late said:
Here, have a read and open your mind.

https://www.snopes.com/harvard-study-apple-iphones-sales-slows/

And please stop being so bloody naive, back in September Harvard University already busted Apple for their planned obsolescence.

Here's a quote which has been proven false by Snopes (you know, the famous fact checking site):



I understand your inability to understand that corporations are always up to filthy tricks to try and make you spend more money but you're only harming yourself and your finances by continuing to believe it.

And that's the last from me, if you don't want to believe it then good luck to you.
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I suggest you read the whole article and then reconsider what the “what’s false” section actually means.

It’s not what you think it means. In fact it’s the polar opposite to what you’re trying to make it appear to mean.

The whole point of the article is that the “Harvard quote” is only partially true (the part where it says phones are being slowed down), and partially wrong (the bit where it says they’re doing it to drive sales).

What’s written under the “what’s false” heading is explaining why the second part (the claim of driving sales) is wrong.
 
V F said:
You go swimming with your phone do you? If not and it’s a wet day, put it in your jacket pocket. How did we manage in wet days with brick phones? I don’t remember anyone complaining unless they dropped it in a puddle.
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They’d buy new ones all the time because they were relatively cheaper. I know lots of people that destroyed their non smartphones by dropping them in sinks and down toilets.

Waterproofing isn’t just about swimming. Presumably you’re not interested in shock proofing of phones either, or any other safety features to help reduce the chance of damaging them?
 
Amp34 said:
They’d buy new ones all the time because they were relatively cheaper. I know lots of people that destroyed their non smartphones by dropping them in sinks and down toilets.
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What are they doing with phones in the bathroom/toilets?

Waterproofing isn’t just about swimming. Presumably you’re not interested in shock proofing of phones either, or any other safety features to help reduce the chance of damaging them?
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Maybe I’m just not phone obsessed that I can go places without an iPhone or Android. I certainly never carry them everywhere or live on them. Let alone why would I ever take them into the toilet which frankly is bloody disgusting.
 
Glaucus said:
And you get caught out side without a coat then what? You and your phone gets extremely wet and you have to go through thedrying and hope it works. It's an extremely useful feature which many people want.
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I have a 3 year old note 4 with removable battery I run everyday my phone is in a flip case I often run in the rain phone is still alive only thing stopping me getting a new phone is lack of removable battery in newer models. Not waterproof does not mean the phone dies in the rain I can confirm
 
Personally I believe the waterproof mechanic to be a gimic.

I am sure there is someone out there that will tell me that I am one of the lucky ones, but in all the years I have owned mobile phones from the days of BT cellnet, I have never had a handset go kaput on me because of the rain. This is rain in varying degrees as well from the odd spinkle to the absolute monsoon bucket over your head scenario that I have had in India before.

Sure my son dropped my Iphone 4 in the toilet many years ago and that went kaput, but this is more of the exception rather than the rule.

For those customers that want to be protected because they want to be 'saved' when they decide to go swimming with their mobile? Let Darwinism take care of their phone purchases and think about everbody else. Don't most people insure their handsets anyway?

Apple have made a shambles of this and should have been more transparent over the choices that they enforce upon their customers.

Ok this downclocking is supposed to increase the lifespan of a phone, but who the hell wants a handset that runs like a snail??? It makes it pretty much pointless and during the last days of my iphone 3s the OS was so painful it was suicide inducing.

If I knew that I could avoid this by slamming a $100 battery in it once a year, I would sooner do this rather than ***** close to a $1000 on a new handset.

I have an Iphone X * and my 'old' 7 plus is my 'work' phone and perhaps it is just me.....but even that seems slower than it does a year ago when I purchased it.

* p.s : I purchased the X just because the screen had more real estate than my 7 plus
 
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Amp34 said:
If they’re defective then presumably all the Samsung, LG, and every other brand of phone are also defective. ALL phones do this, it’s not an Apple specific issue. The only variability here is Apple decided to slow devices down to try and stop them shutting off, rather than the other manufacturers (and Apple prior to this) just allowing them to do so.
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Again like said to morochester (endlessly) the actual slowing down of phones I don’t have a huge issue with, it’s a sticking plaster and a pretty ugly one.

The much bigger issue is hiding this, which will have been intentional, to reap the benefits of the customer not knowing about their slow phones needing a simple fix, to avoid the bad PR, and to drive upgrades.
 
Rifte said:
Personally I believe the waterproof mechanic to be a gimic.
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Nokia starting putting dampness indicators in their batteries 20 years ago because bogus warranty repairs were so common.

Modern phones are waterproof for the same reason.

* p.s : I purchased the X just because the screen had more real estate than my 7 plus
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You realise that the iPhone X has less screen real estate than an iPhone 7 Plus, right? :p
 
Minstadave said:
Again like said to morochester (endlessly) the actual slowing down of phones I don’t have a huge issue with, it’s a sticking plaster and a pretty ugly one.

The much bigger issue is hiding this, which will have been intentional, to reap the benefits of the customer not knowing about their slow phones needing a simple fix, to avoid the bad PR, and to drive upgrades.
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Not much that can be done about the past. At least Apple have now clarified the situation.

What we don’t yet know are Apple’s motives. You are assuming you know the motives already, but I suggest you remain open minded until we see the actual result of the various investigations that have now started.
 
Maybe an Insider will confess the motivation to Mr Assange - that would be a coup, but I guess they would loose their stock options. (the google insider was unsurprisingly sacked) - need a kickstarter fund for the employee.

Older Sony Vaios had a battery saver mode, where you could limit the maximum charge on the battery to prolong its life (if you were able to pre-calculate battery capacity needed in mobile mode/commute)

The desire for rapid charge (probably for tesla too) is also working against battery life, read an article against using fast chargers on some Android phones, slow is best.
 
I took my phone into Apple yesterday to have the battery replaced under a recall program and the guy I spoke to said they were snowed under with people wanting to replace their battery.

They actually bodged my battery replacement and so have given me a brand new (like for like) replacement phone.
 
Irish_Tom said:
I took my phone into Apple yesterday to have the battery replaced under a recall program and the guy I spoke to said they were snowed under with people wanting to replace their battery.

They actually bodged my battery replacement and so have given me a brand new (like for like) replacement phone.
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All that just to replace a battery lol

Takes 5 seconds on a non-apple phone.
 
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