probably to compete with snapchat and Instagram with their "stories" which expire in 24 hours and which various celebs, narcissists and wannabe "influencers" post on a daily basis
YouTube star Logan Paul uploads a monetised video of a suicide victim to "raise awareness"
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probably to compete with snapchat and Instagram with their "stories" which expire in 24 hours and which various celebs, narcissists and wannabe "influencers" post on a daily basis
I do wonder if they're a bit underpaid/undervalued - obviously youtube has a bit of a monopoly and gets to set the prices/how much of a cut it will give them... but if you consider say some TV shows only get a couple of million viewers yet need to fund a whole cast/crew/production company from the few minutes of adverts sold around them then it would be an interesting comparison to see how much the production company of a TV show makes (gross) and the seconds of advertising & millions of viewers required vs the youtubers and their viewers & advertising.
I guess if there were a better market for it and a couple of serious youtube competitor platforms out there then we'd see the content creators make even more money + google might get away with much less re: demonetising some videos/channels
It's the easiest way to success on Youtube - produce huge quantities of video of yourself being an ********. Every day, since that's what Google wants. That won't guarantee success, which is very fickle, but it's the most likely route to it. The drawback is that same fickleness makes it difficult to always avoid negative attention while being unpleasant enough to get hundreds of millions of views. If you get enough views regularly enough, you get far more slack regarding demonitisation.
Meanwhile, decent people producing interesting content require patrons to fund them because Google demonitise them for no known reason and there's no way to avoid it and no way to know from one day to the next whether or not Google has removed your entire channel for no known reason (and yes, that happens).
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i think you might be onto something there, after all it's the big attention seekers getting massive revenues by resorting to stunts like this compared to the smaller channels that have a bit more integrity and just produce good content.
the whole demonetising fiasco has really been bodged, especially given the number of channels that got demonetised but are still going as strong (if not stronger) surfing on a wave of patreon support, despite not necessarily having particularly offensive content.
the problem with youtube at the minute is that you really need to have a chunk of your own knowledge to distinguish between the genuinely knowledgeable educators, the nonsense spouters, and the purely entertainers.
there are some right gems of channels out there who have been demonetised despite the quality of their work easily being on the level with "professional" media
Had never heard of this guy before today and watched the video in full earlier. Some things I took away from it:
- What or why is this guy famous? Honestly one of the most irritating people I've seen in front of a camera
- When they found the body, initially the reactions and video edit seemed to be handled pretty well overall
- However the fact that they even thought that uploading any video showing the body was in anyway relevant tells you everything you need to know
- Then there's the joke that's made about standing next to a dead body while he's happily smiling away, which just highlights what a grubby little cretin this moron is and again the fact they saw fit to leave that in the final edit speaks volumes
- The "I'm sorry" garbage just doesn't wash once you've seen the video, his natural reaction was initially shock which then turned into something wholly different and just shows the true colours of a horrible, self centered man that is obviously isolated from the world that exists outside of making youtube videos, I hope he's banned.
I find it hard to find interesting stuff on YouTube because google has allowed lots of clowns like this to spam the platform with utter drivel.
I'd love if I could add a spam filter to turn off all these vloggers.
But YouTube has decided to the national enquirer of video streaming.
I'd love if I could add a spam filter to turn off all these vloggers.
But YouTube has decided to the national enquirer of video streaming.
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Why, in the name of all that is good, would you want to "raise awareness of suicide". Goodness ****ing me.
because suicide is a real issue that's a growing cause of death in young people, especially men, and raising awareness that this is becoming a serious epidemic that needs to be addressed by society as a whole is something that needs to be done.
however, filming some poor chaps corpse who's taken the quick way out of a pit of despair then chucking it on youtube to make some ad money is probably not the most tasteful or effective way of doing it.
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I first heard of his name in Casey Neistat's channel, then the Logan's made some c-celebrity news last year when they "surprised" fans by appearing in public in some YouTuber event and it caused chaos for security, which they apologised again for.
I have looked at a couple of their old videos, it was, or may be still is a couple of rich brats messing about, wasting their lives away, doing stupid Jackass style stunts. Most of their humour seems to be AT someone, which I find offensive.
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I'd never heard about him until I clicked on the Facebook link whilst on the toilet earlier. My brother showed me a video of his 2017 review. What an absolute ****.
It would have been immediately demonetised if he tried, the only reason he said that was to make out like he was doing a good thing.
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YouTube sucks, I used to be able to login go to trending and see videos of animals doing retarded stuff and smile
Now when I go trending it’s just full of legions of cretinous self obsessed vloggers talking about the most mundane stuff ever... these have to be some of the most beige and uninteresting people on the planet and yet they have millions of subscribers.
Now when I go trending it’s just full of legions of cretinous self obsessed vloggers talking about the most mundane stuff ever... these have to be some of the most beige and uninteresting people on the planet and yet they have millions of subscribers.
To be fair, the same thing happened on tv. Channels that used to focus on, say, documentaries are now projectile vomitting various forms of "reality tv".
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I use YouTube on a daily basis, and yet I've never heard of this tool.
Seems like the ideal publicity occassion for Google to show some kind of definitive action to prove their "Don't be evil" corporate message is not vacuous;
otherwise their next appearance at the government's home affairs committee meeting (Yvette Cooper & Co) will be met by further clamour for legislation.
A contribution to the UK societies dedicated to teenage suicide understanding would be a good start.
Maybe they will realise soon, that come the next election, manifesto intentions to address social media will be a vote winner.
(Is there a utube trending hall of shame, Jihady John, ..... Logan,.....)
otherwise their next appearance at the government's home affairs committee meeting (Yvette Cooper & Co) will be met by further clamour for legislation.
A contribution to the UK societies dedicated to teenage suicide understanding would be a good start.
Maybe they will realise soon, that come the next election, manifesto intentions to address social media will be a vote winner.
(Is there a utube trending hall of shame, Jihady John, ..... Logan,.....)
The reason they are dead is depression, an illness that causes such hopelessness that they don't feel there is any other way of going forward. They are a victim of depression. You are so lost that you are not only detached from the act but from everything.
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What does raising awareness even mean? I don't think there are any problems relating to lack of awareness at all, not for suicide and i doubt for many cases of various raising awareness issues. Rather i find that it is just a demonstration of people who would like to spread their "awareness" and fake high morality with a touch of condescension and to me, the highest level of ignorance.
I'm not indifferent on this - haven't watched the video, but it certainly sounds morally dubious and insensitive...
...but I'm sort of surprised it's 'news' in any way. Also, people and celebrities getting on the 'look at me, I am so morally awarrrreeee' train. Meh.
Perhaps I underestimate his influence as I've never heard of him.
...but I'm sort of surprised it's 'news' in any way. Also, people and celebrities getting on the 'look at me, I am so morally awarrrreeee' train. Meh.
Perhaps I underestimate his influence as I've never heard of him.
That must have been very difficult. I hope things have worked out as best as they could, in the circumstances, for you and your family.
He and his brother are two of the biggest Youtubers, so whatever they do seems to be news. They are both well known for being morons and not the type of people to make sensible content to raise awareness of anything. The whole thing is a publicity stunt like so many of their other videos, but this is a new low to use someones unfortunate suicide as a means to get publicity. They were also really disrespectful in the video, dressed like clowns and giggling etc while some poor guy is hanging from a tree. Its not surprising celebrities are commenting on it and rightfully shaming the guy.