This 'sugar tax' crap is doing my head in!

It's hilarious how the government think the answer to everything is slap a tax on it.

Well you know what I am sick of the retards in power being total numbskulls so I would like to propose an MP tax of which 90% of their wages goes to the normal person on the street.
 
:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Resort to childishness because you can't back up your statements? Go you!

Pretty sure the food standards agencies are going to be a pretty good source?? http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/topics/topic/aspartame https://www.food.gov.uk/science/additives/aspartame

Not really, no...

These were all available on the first page of google... I can't be bothered to search more for you - look for the independent studies, avoid the sponsored ones & look for peer-reviewed material:

https://www.easd.org/virtualmeeting...teners-on-glycaemic-control-in-healthy-humans
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrin...m/retrieve/pii/S1043276013000878?showall=true
https://news.yale.edu/2017/08/10/sweet-taste-not-just-calories-dictates-metabolic-response
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28428346
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2521471
https://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20130104/sweetened-drinks-depression?src=RSS_PUBLIC#1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194
https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ange-braine28099s-pleasure-response-to-sweet/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261

Thank god, sick of dealing with liquid sugar in any manifestation. At least i can enjoy my poison of choice without wondering if i'll get fat as well.

That seems contradictory... artificial sweeteners are much more likely to make you fat.

So... you are happy that your choice of poison is pushed on everyone else?

I was knackered one day the other week and felt like picking up a bottle of Lucozade to get a sugar boost... oh wait... they don't make the sugar version anymore.
 
Sugar can be pretty bad for you, particularly with inflammation but it obviously depends on your intake and it seems the way in which individuals bodies can handle it varies massively, although this does change over the years with many people in a state of prediabetes as their cells can no longer produce enough insulin.
 
Not really, no...

These were all available on the first page of google... I can't be bothered to search more for you - look for the independent studies, avoid the sponsored ones & look for peer-reviewed material:

https://www.easd.org/virtualmeeting...teners-on-glycaemic-control-in-healthy-humans
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/fulltext/S1043-2760(13)00087-8?_returnURL=http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1043276013000878?showall=true
https://news.yale.edu/2017/08/10/sweet-taste-not-just-calories-dictates-metabolic-response
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28428346
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2521471
https://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20130104/sweetened-drinks-depression?src=RSS_PUBLIC#1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194
https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ange-braine28099s-pleasure-response-to-sweet/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261



That seems contradictory... artificial sweeteners are much more likely to make you fat.

So... you are happy that your choice of poison is pushed on everyone else?

I was knackered one day the other week and felt like picking up a bottle of Lucozade to get a sugar boost... oh wait... they don't make the sugar version anymore.

You felt knackered because you expect sugar to help you, you've rewarded yourself and now you feel like you need to defend it.

It's making too many people fat and costing too much to deal with, it's time to let go man.
 
Not really, no...

These were all available on the first page of google... I can't be bothered to search more for you - look for the independent studies, avoid the sponsored ones & look for peer-reviewed material:

https://www.easd.org/virtualmeeting...teners-on-glycaemic-control-in-healthy-humans
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrinology-metabolism/fulltext/S1043-2760(13)00087-8?_returnURL=http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S1043276013000878?showall=true
https://news.yale.edu/2017/08/10/sweet-taste-not-just-calories-dictates-metabolic-response
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28428346
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2521471
https://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20130104/sweetened-drinks-depression?src=RSS_PUBLIC#1
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194
https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ange-braine28099s-pleasure-response-to-sweet/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261



That seems contradictory... artificial sweeteners are much more likely to make you fat.

So... you are happy that your choice of poison is pushed on everyone else?

I was knackered one day the other week and felt like picking up a bottle of Lucozade to get a sugar boost... oh wait... they don't make the sugar version anymore.
just utter lol. do you even read, for a start you can still buy glucose loaded lucozade. secondly. read the trials/study rather than blindly posting them.
sucralose, that is nowen to have a GI response in certain forms, unlike aspartame.
and a load of cohort studies. d you think that unhealthy people are more likely to choose diet sodas? this doesn't make diet sodas bad, and it certainly does not prove a correlation.
 
You really think that is what happens?
its made this thread. so yes.
but theres two other reasons, change what manufacturers do, and if they don't change. then it raises money for ideally education. But obviously what the tax is actually spent on, is usually different. initially, they send 1billion would go towards health education in schools.
 
its made this thread. so yes.
but theres two other reasons, change what manufacturers do, and if they don't change. then it raises money for ideally education. But obviously what the tax is actually spent on, is usually different. initially, they send 1billion would go towards health education in schools.

But the OP is not saying, oh the sugar tax means I can't have my full fat Coke with my meal, I will go for the healthy option.
 
lol you don't read what you link do you. haha I'm sure you're just on the windup :)

Has it taken you that long to realise? The only half decent stuff he posts on here is in the crypto section and even most of that is just loose opinions or copied advice from elsewhere.

When someone links a string of links like that it's obvious they're just rattling through google searches and pasting anything they can find without even reading it.
 
But the OP is not saying, oh the sugar tax means I can't have my full fat Coke with my meal, I will go for the healthy option.
what has that got to do with it? when has a statement ever stopped everyone.
people still buy bags but far less bags than before the tax.
 
Because that's the whole point of the question I asked when I originally replied to the comment?
you cant use a single example as a trend for a large population.
and your original statement was wrong. the tax introduction has produced a huge amount of debate, both before it was introduced. I mean which media didn't run multiple stories and since.

whichever way you cut it, that statement was wrong. and picking a single person is not evidence of anything.
 
you cant use a single example as a trend for a large population.
and your original statement was wrong. the tax introduction has produced a huge amount of debate, both before it was introduced. I mean which media didn't run multiple stories and since.

whichever way you cut it, that statement was wrong. and picking a single person is not evidence of anything.

Sheesh, who stole the sugar out of your drink this morning?

Monday morning blues?

:p

I wasn't professing that a single example is a trend of the larger population.
 
lol you don't read what you link do you. haha I'm sure you're just on the windup :)
Has it taken you that long to realise? The only half decent stuff he posts on here is in the crypto section and even most of that is just loose opinions or copied advice from elsewhere.

When someone links a string of links like that it's obvious they're just rattling through google searches and pasting anything they can find without even reading it.

WTF... you guys are obviously trying to wind me up...

Links to Tyre 2 Diabetes:
https://www.easd.org/virtualmeeting...teners-on-glycaemic-control-in-healthy-humans

Weight gain, metabolic issues, diabetes & CV disease:
http://www.cell.com/trends/endocrin...m/retrieve/pii/S1043276013000878?showall=true

Interesting comments from a Yale study co-funded by Pepsi:
https://news.yale.edu/2017/08/10/sweet-taste-not-just-calories-dictates-metabolic-response

3000 person study indicating links to stroke & dementia:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28428346

3000 person study indicating links to infant obesity:
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2521471

264,000 person study showing link to depression:
https://www.webmd.com/depression/news/20130104/sweetened-drinks-depression?src=RSS_PUBLIC#1

Cancer:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8939194

Dietary issues:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.co...ange-braine28099s-pleasure-response-to-sweet/

Diabetes / obesity:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23850261


Sweeteners cause the very thing they're publicised to help you avoid... enjoy your poison...
 
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