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GPU prices go boom
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GPU per pixel.
If that is really your pic and you got that shipment today you got 14 days to arrange a return. You've no idea what's coming man. Crypto took a shot at widespread adoption and failed spectacularly it will be a long time before things stabilize and even longer before any kind of uptrend, confidence will not be regained easily. By that time gpu mining will not be a thing to make profit from especially in the UK.
Yes it could go a different way but its highly unlikely.
12.5p per Kw is cheap. Only 3-4 days mining to cover the monthly's.
If I send them back I'll need to replace it with one of those crystal balls you have... Where did you get yours from?
Back up your doom and gloom with something OTHER than the current price of crypto currency. Bearing in mind a Trillion $ got wiped off the us stockmarket today.
Todays deliveryMynight will have them at 10% over what you paid...
Mynight will have them at 10% over what you paid...
That would still be a bargain at current prices
.Like I said you can do as you wish but ask anywhere except some miner kukuland subforum and you'll get a similar response to mine.
A few months ago maybe but Monero will never be worth mining again with botnets in action. Good coin though.
Can you explain why it will not be worth mining? Are you speaking about people with 1-2 GPUs or someone with 20 GPUs? Why is all other cryptos not going to be profitable or worth mining? There is loads. What about people who have paid off their hardware, is it still worth it then? Just curious as what you say is fairly blanket.
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It won't,as I realised on another forum,when I suggested companies are just padding things like motherboards with fake heatsinks,cosmetic VRMs and RGB everywhere I was met with incredibility that I criticised PCMR. So its going to stay since enthusiasts want it to.
You say that,but sadly there are many who won't accept that viewpoint at all even with evidence.
I mean this is how bad things have got now,if you are in the sub £300 graphics card market.
So,the HD7870 was roughly GTX570 level. Look at where the GTX970 - double the performance of the GTX570 and HD7870 within 4 years. All those cards are under £300.
Look now.
An aftermarket R9 290 dipped under £300 in early 2014 and the GTX970 was around £250 six months later.
Now consider that aftermarket R9 290 and GTX970 tended to be quicker,and most cards were aftermarket ones, a GTX1060/RX480/RX580 is barely 20% to 25% faster after three to four years.
Then add mining to it all,the RAM price fixing,SSDs going up in price,etc.
How the heck can devs push graphics with PC games,if the mainstream cards under £300 have barely moved on in three to four years??
That essentially means people will be stuck at 1080p,since even qHD is double the resolution,and the cards cannot keep up with monitor resolution increases.
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Yup, AMD not providing decent competition has meant both companies barely leap frog over each other when they release their latest chips.
Does it matter though? The only thing killing fps right now is bad devs / publishers skipping decent programming anyway... Frostbyte engine might as well be the only engine really pushing out the envelope in the graphics department. PUBG looks like generic ass, and most games are console ports.
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Yep,since AMD is not competing as well in GPUs,see what has happened,but at the same too many accepted the state of affairs(review sites especially who should have pointed how poor this improvement over the last four years was,but didn't bother). See what happened with Intel CPUs,the moment AMD made a decision to really compete,we had a massive change in the market.
But what if AMD just slightly pushed Intel instead,it wouldn't have happened. I think as shown by EA getting pushed into a corner over microtransactions the PC community needs to kind of speak out,but if many just accept it,companies won't care.
The reason devs can take the mickey with no optimisation,is because of the latest con to save money,known as early access. Why?? They are selling you an unfinished game,so don't need to bother spending money on making it run properly(which is not cheap),and if people moan,they say"but! but! its early access!" whilst adding DLC and microtransactions.
An example is ARK:Survival Evolved. It now is actually better optimised since they have had to release it,but for years it ran like utter arse,and I got fed up with it until recently despite it being fun to play with mates.
I think another problem,is that for all of us pointing these issues out,there are plenty who will accept it all(or even fight against people like us) for just pointing it out. I mean Ryzen/CFL is all fine and good,but some of the price escalation in motherboards is horrendous.
I nearly bought a Core i5 8400,then this just stopped me:
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-Z97N-WIFI-rev-10#ov
https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/Z370N-WIFI-rev-10#kf
The first board I used in a build in 2015 for a mate with a Haswell Xeon E3 1230 V3/Core i7 4770,and it was £80ish and the CPU £170ish(maybe £175). So around £250ish.
The second board for all intents and purposes does the same thing,yet is £140. How the heck did the same series motherboard go from £80 to £140?? A Core i5 8400 is £190ish. So £330ish already.
Add,DDR4 into the mix which has gone to silly levels in pricing and with both CFL/Ryzen liking faster RAM,that Xeon E3 1230 V3 setup was simply better value.
Then in 2015,AMD was ditching the last of the R9 290 4GB cards for under £200. So its kind of weird,if you had a decent budget/midrange 2015 rig,there is not a massive realworld improvement in a similarly priced rig now.
However,another issue:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/
Look at the top 10 Nvidia cards. They are at at best GTX970/GTX1060 level.
The GTX1070 is still below the GTX970 and the GTX970 was in the top 3 in that list in 2015/2016 since it sold loads.
That would explain why companies are not pushing graphics. The improvement in an average or median gaming PC is not enough.
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Probably going to be late this year or even 2019 before we start seeing reasonable pricing on everything, RAM has been high for a while now.. Smells like BS going on half the time, can't be demand to cause prices to stay high for so long surely not?
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It is possible the RAM issues is price fixing and China is investigating this. Its happened on more than one occasion where the companies have formed cartels,got found out and had to pay fines. They try it every few years.
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Can anyone hear a whistle like sound, gradually getting lower and lower...
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Given all the stock markets tanking is this actually crypto bursting or a wider trend.
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Wider trend and profit taking, Asia is taking a beating now, hopefully some of these profits will get recycled from the stock market into crypto.