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980ti was $649 on release. 1080ti was $699 on release. 2080ti will be $750 minimum.
Oh the joys.
Oh the joys.
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£100 cheaper here https://www.overclockers.co.uk/gigabyte-geforce-gtx-1080ti-gaming-oc-11264mb-gddr5x-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-18v-gi.html
Quick buy a few while there cheap....
I'd be fine with a £500 1180ti and a £400 1180, but even that is cloud cuckoo land these days.
The 1180 (non-ti) is probably going to be around £650 (1080ti price) if not more. The 1170 could well be £480.
In fact the price for both could be anywhere up to 20% more even than those inflated prices. This really is what crazytown looks like.
And yet there are a vocal group on here who defend those prices, because "PC Gaming Masterrace."
The 1180 (non-ti) is probably going to be around £650 (1080ti price) if not more. The 1170 could well be £480.
In fact the price for both could be anywhere up to 20% more even than those inflated prices. This really is what crazytown looks like.
And yet there are a vocal group on here who defend those prices, because "PC Gaming Masterrace."
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Given that the 8800 GTX and Ultra were $600 and $850 over 10 years ago, and looking at the crappy exchange rate we have now, what makes you think £500 for the top gaming card the ti is a reasonable expectation?
It's easy to pick and choose from specific generations to make a point.
We've had several top end nVidia GPUs for £500 in the last few gens, haven't we. Before the Titan era. The 480, the 580, the 680... others. Actually they were both $499 so even with exchange rate differences would still only have to account for inflation, since the $:£ is not yet 1:1.
Some history:
GTX 6800 Ultra: $499
GTX 7800: $649
GTX 7900: $499
GTX 8800 Ultra: $829 (anomaly!!)
GTX 9800: $349
GX2 9800 (dual GPU card): $667
GTX 280: $649
GTX 480: $499
GTX 580: $499
GTX 680: $499
GTX 780ti: $699 (first Titan iteration/generation. The 780Ti is no longer nV's best gaming card.)
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Depends when you bought it in 2007, beginning was great, dec was worse rate than it is now
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But its not difficult to look at the competitive situation, the 480 was a disaster of a card, the 680 was the first time nvidia switched to using the ~400mm cards the x80 (so its comparable with the 980/1080 not the ti).
Also ignoring that US dollar prices dont include VAT so add on 20% plus extra shipping costs for UK and basically yes dollar to UK prices are 1:1 at the moment.
So what do you think is reasonable for the 1180 Ti then? I've said £500, you tell me where you think the boundary between genuinely good value for money and price gouging lies.
Tell us what you consider a "good price" for the 1180 Ti. And the 1180 whilst we're at it. Pluck a figure out of thin air that you think is a fair price and that nobody should have grounds to baulk at.
It is worth noting the 9800GTX(+) wasn't really a top end card. Rebrand of an 8800GT from memory.
No that was the 9800 GT
No that was the 9800 GT
Second attempt. 8800GTS 512MB.
The point is that nV have released several $499 flagships in the not-to-distant past, so I don't really accept that £1000 is a more "fair" price for the 1180Ti than £500
It won't be £500 and we all know that!! I'm not even close to suggesting that will be the price it launches at!! I'm sure the 1180 non-Ti will be £650, and the Ti *will* be £1000. The gaming Titan probably at least £1300.
But those are not rational prices, they are just what nV can get away with in full milking mode
It won't be £500 and we all know that!! I'm not even close to suggesting that will be the price it launches at!! I'm sure the 1180 non-Ti will be £650, and the Ti *will* be £1000. The gaming Titan probably at least £1300.
But those are not rational prices, they are just what nV can get away with in full milking mode
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What people are willing to pay is entriely up to them. I'm just saying based on history and the current competetive market that £500 for a xx-ti card is not a realistic expectation. I also dont expect the msrp of the ti to be £1000, as that is the current in stock price gouging due to nvidia stopping production of 10xx chips in November. People getting their panties in a twist over it is also not going to do anything.
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The days of $300ish midrange cards are gone. Stop it, I'm pushing 50 and I'm getting tired of you guys carping on about the "good old days" - you buggers don't remember the days when a 1GB 3.5" SCSI drive was over a grand, or a 486DX powered ACTIVE MATRIX (backlit) laptop in 15" was $6 to 7 THOUSAND>
Go out and get laid or something. Your wives will probably enjoy the peace & quiet LOL.
Go out and get laid or something. Your wives will probably enjoy the peace & quiet LOL.
But if cars, phones, TVs, etc are getting better at the low end for the same money, why are graphics cards tripling in price and giving little better performance or features? It's pure scarcity of supply and price gouging, along with a lack of innovation. Companies are bringing out incremental updates to milk the customer.
The way the market is linked between design, manufacturing, component supply, game development, etc we are seeing how any one part of that can stall out the market for any other. Waste transistors on features that devs aren't using, and you're put back. Can't get RAM production capacity because the mobile phone industry is buying it all up, and you can't make cards. Nvdia doesn't support DX12, and all the devs stick to DX11, etc. The whole system is strangling itself.
The way the market is linked between design, manufacturing, component supply, game development, etc we are seeing how any one part of that can stall out the market for any other. Waste transistors on features that devs aren't using, and you're put back. Can't get RAM production capacity because the mobile phone industry is buying it all up, and you can't make cards. Nvdia doesn't support DX12, and all the devs stick to DX11, etc. The whole system is strangling itself.
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