New Star Trek series - 2017

Is it? Americans for you. I skip the 30 second intro that everyone loves to stick on their videos these days to get straight to the easter eggs.
 
Pretty terrible last 2 episodes to an otherwise brilliant take on the Star Trek universe, imo.
Defo not for canon enthusiasts, but it breathed a new lease of life into a pretty tired world for me.

They shoulda ended the series with the death of Lorca, and a quick jump back to our universe at the right-time, thus ending the war.
 
I told you they would have trouble keeping up the standard once they got home from the MU. MU is all fun and games, back home it's all dull and dreary Federation. The way they ended the war was a joke. As if the Klingons would respect them for handing over their war winning weapon, or if any Klingon would believe that L'Renn could blow up the planet at the press of a button. Starfleet wouldn't trust such a ridiculous plan to work, not with the fate of humanity at stake.

A much better story would be for Discovery to have pulled the same trick on something vitally important to the Klingons, some sacred planet or strategic shipyard or other planet. To have actually stood up to the Klingons and end the war with a display of how far Starfleet are willing to go, and how dark they can be would have been far more interesting going forwards.
 
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The Klingon moon Praxis exploded at the start of Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, that might be what you're thinking of.
 
Qonos isn't really that integral to the Star Trek universe, would have made much more impact if they actually blew it up. Could have had L'rell actually blowing it up to show her dominance and all the remining Klingon colonies/outposts rallying under her.

It seems too farfetched that they would all do it simply on her word alone. Especially when she is just an outcast to the rest of the empire.

Seems like they were just a little too eager to close the Klingon war storyline and an episode or two got cut.
 
MooMoo444 said:
Qonos isn't really that integral to the Star Trek universe
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Apart from the times that they showed it in TNG, DS9? Last thing this show needed was another continuity snarl ;):p

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It seems too farfetched that they would all do it simply on her word alone. Especially when she is just an outcast to the rest of the empire.

Seems like they were just a little too eager to close the Klingon war storyline and an episode or two got cut.
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A legacy of the troubled production, perhaps. Bryan Fuller leaving threw several spanners into the works, it seems to me that the showrunners were essentially winging it for much of this season with no clue about how to get to where they wanted to be.
 
JRS said:
Apart from the times that they showed it in TNG, DS9? Last thing this show needed was another continuity snarl ;):p
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Would be better if it just branched off into a different timeline though, or simply have the Klingons move to a new planet and call that Qonos also. They've already caused issues with a spore drive that can jump anywhere instantly, mycelial spore network that's never mentioned ever again, races that don't ever get mentioned like Kelpians. Being constrained by continuity really hurts the show.

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You would rally behind a person that blew up your home world would you?
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As opposed to someone who holds the entire planet hostage and threatens to? It's daft either way but arguably more daft the way they went.
 
I really enjoyed the first series of Discovery, well, apart from the last ten minutes of the last episode. It all worked out a little too neatly. I felt like it needed another episode.

Hope they can improve things in the second series.
 
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Nope, that was Praxis, one of their mining moons.
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Praxis was the main source of Energy/power for the Klingon Empire. If you remember when it was blown up apparently due to a careless accident Spock estimated they had 50 years of life before the Klingon Empire ceased to be. It didnt explain why or how it survived unless it mentions it in the books. In the alternate time line of the new movies Praxis was destroyed by John Harrison (Khan) whilst working for Section 31.

So would the mapping of Qo'noS by Discovery reveal that there main power was coming from Praxis so then they could threaten to blow that up instead ? Of course they would not have done it as then it would not be destroyed in ST VI.
 
So, season 2 has gotten a 13 episode order. No date set for when it'll be aired. Anson Mount (Inhumans, Hell On Wheels) is playing Captain Pike. Section 31 is going to appear, which was just about the least interesting story element in the later episodes of DS9 so you can imagine my utter indifference.

An admission from the production team regarding the Enterprise - apparently she's not just a different shape to the original, but like the JJTrek one she's bigger as well. Production designer Tamara Deverell, to the audience at WonderCon back in March:

"Overall, I think we expanded the length of it to be within the world of our Discovery, which is bigger, so we did cheat it as a larger ship."
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Outstanding. So now we have to rationalise not only a change in shape between STD and TOS, but also a change in size when she gets refitted for the first film :rolleyes:

There was a brief muttering that the showrunners were forced to change the look of the ship due to rights issues, the design having to be '25% different' or so. That's since been shot down, the changes were definitely for creative reasons rather than legal ones according to CBS. Not sure what's worse really - them being forced to change the Enterprise (in which case, WHY SHOW HER?!?) or them choosing to change the Enterprise (i.e. making a concious choice to **** all over continuity much like they did with, oh, say the entire Klingon race).

At least there's The Orville...
 
Meh. constitution class ships were supposed to be "heavy cruisers" but the 1701 was less than half the length of the 1701D in TNG - if they want to reinvent the constitution class and make it bigger that's no issue for me.
 
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Everything announced so far sounds great to me. I also don't have a problem with a few changes to the ship. Overall it still looks like a Connie .

Frakes directing another couple of episodes too.
 
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