The Sony A73/A7R3/A7S3/A9 Thread

jonneymendoza · 22 Apr 2018 at 11:05

Raymond Lin said:
My fear is because of the life cycle, it’s too soon for them to bring out a camera that directly compete with the 5D or 1D, it’s too soon and if a customer is given a choice whether to get a DSLR 5D4 or a Mirrorless 5D4 and the only difference is the mirror box, Canon is only going to sell just 1 camera so they are not exactly making more money, making another sale so all the R&D into it would be a bit of a waste.

If they are going to make one mirrorless pro body, I think the only logical body to make is the 7D mirrorless, it can be literally like the A9 but APSC. It would make sense because if the 7D2 has been out a while and they already have the M5/6/50 tech which can be just transported over with some adjustments. It can, if they can pull it off, high FPS silent shooting like the A9, dual cards slots and gear towards sports, like the A9.

i think it would also need a new mount so another thing to consider

Raymond Lin · 22 Apr 2018 at 13:22

jonneymendoza said:
i think it would also need a new mount so another thing to consider

They could actually just use the their E-M mount, which has the same diameter as Sony's E-mount. If they do that, they already have an adaptor already on the market for existing lenses, they just need to expand their EM lenses line up, FF versions.

jonneymendoza · 23 Apr 2018 at 10:11

A few from London photo walk
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London Photo walk Spring pt 2--87.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
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London Photo walk Spring pt 2--831.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
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London Photo walk Spring pt 1--407.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
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London Photo walk Spring pt 1--49.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
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London Photo walk Spring pt 1--90.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
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London Photo walk Spring pt 1--64.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr
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London Photo walk Spring pt 1--251.jpg by Jon Richy, on Flickr

Screeeech · 23 Apr 2018 at 17:56

Anyone shooting tethered to their phone? I've been using the Playmemories app, but I'm having a terrible time with it - it keeps endlessly disconnecting and messing me around - it's driven me mad a few times.

Did some googling and apparently Phase one Capture pilot now supports the Sony cameras, has anyone tried it yet?

Raymond Lin · 23 Apr 2018 at 18:00

Screeeech said:
Anyone shooting tethered to their phone? I've been using the Playmemories app, but I'm having a terrible time with it - it keeps endlessly disconnecting and messing me around - it's driven me mad a few times.

Did some googling and apparently Phase one Capture pilot now supports the Sony cameras, has anyone tried it yet?

Ive done it with my canon and Fuji, they both work as expected. I’d expect Sony to work just the same?

Screeeech · 23 Apr 2018 at 18:03

Raymond Lin said:
Ive done it with my canon and Fuji, they both work as expected. I’d expect Sony to work just the same?

Using Playmemories or capture pilot? apparently they added support to capture pilot for Sony a few days ago

Playmemories works, but it constantly disconnects - I can't keep it connected to the camera, sometimes I have to turn everything off then start again - which is a huge pain.

SDK^ · 26 Apr 2018 at 11:00

Raymond Lin said:
I would think Canon is about 3 generations behind Sony, their next camera is probably going to be like the A7Rii.

Tony & Chelsea did a video recently of what to expect from a Canon & Nikon mirrorless camera this year and that is probably where they landed - comparable to Sony A7II/R. It's also debatable whether or not they will have IBIS at the £2k price point.

Check it out here : https://youtu.be/G1IyIE2gAL4

Raymond Lin · 26 Apr 2018 at 17:38

SDK^ said:
Tony & Chelsea did a video recently of what to expect from a Canon & Nikon mirrorless camera this year and that is probably where they landed - comparable to Sony A7II/R. It's also debatable whether or not they will have IBIS at the £2k price point.

Check it out here : https://youtu.be/G1IyIE2gAL4

I am pretty confident that whatever Canon release, it won't match the A73 for tech or value.

sHo0sH · 26 Apr 2018 at 18:29

Raymond Lin said:
I am pretty confident that whatever Canon release, it won't match the A73 for tech or value.

Such a pointless release in that case.

A7iii is such a game changer bang for buck is outrageous

Raymond Lin · 26 Apr 2018 at 18:35

sHo0sH said:
Such a pointless release in that case.

A7iii is such a game changer bang for buck is outrageous

They have to start somewhere.

jonneymendoza · 28 Apr 2018 at 07:17

sHo0sH said:
Such a pointless release in that case.

A7iii is such a game changer bang for buck is outrageous

people will still flock and buy canikon regardless

shaf · 28 Apr 2018 at 16:00

Is there a nikon adapter for this camera?

I have a couple of nikon g lenses for my d750 that I want to use.

Raymond Lin · 28 Apr 2018 at 16:06

shaf said:
Is there a nikon adapter for this camera?

I have a couple of nikon g lenses for my d750 that I want to use.

Yes but according to reports, it's erm…..not very good.

Whereas the Sigma MC-11 or the Metabones can give you almost like native performance and features, especially with Sigma lenses. The Nikon adaptors do not.

http://briansmith.com/nikon-lens-adapters-sony-e-mount-cameras/

RSR · 29 Apr 2018 at 20:44

https://store.digitalrev.com/product/sony-alpha-a7-iii-body/MTEwNTk5OQ_A_A

That seems very cheap, I assume you don't get a UK warranty from Digital Revs?

Raymond Lin · 29 Apr 2018 at 20:49

RSR said:
https://store.digitalrev.com/product/sony-alpha-a7-iii-body/MTEwNTk5OQ_A_A

That seems very cheap, I assume you don't get a UK warranty from Digital Revs?

That same combo is £2100 here? That lens isn’t the best, not worth much really.

But it’s still cheaper than UK stock, personally I rather get one with the sigma adaptor deal going around if you already have some canon lenses.

Combat squirrel · 29 Apr 2018 at 21:52

It's an interesting time to be a photographer - good lord I want the A7 III - it makes sense for me as a full time wedding photographer, also I make about 25% of my living from videography.

BUT - and I have to keep going back to this - will it make my product any 'better' - no is the answer, a photographers skill is just that - their skill - sure its a nice cam, it makes life easier with eye AF, iv been so close to pulling the trigger!! but my 5D3 is a great work horse - it more than does 'the job' - also to date I've been a canon user, as im sure Raymond has.

I'm not sure if it's my age (35) or my point in my career - but there is a point where you stop looking at specs, hardware, 'x' stops of dynamic range and just clicks one day, oh yeah, it's me that's taking the photographs........so be that, be you - take your photos, do your best work, try your best - in this day and age with ever incremental improvements to hardware based mostly on capitalism - it's time to get back to reality - Ansel didn't have any where near this camera tech - yet he's timeless.

Great cam - but - I'll go out and do photography instead.

(disclaimer: sure the shift to mirrorless is the biggest deal since digital cameras, I'm excited to see where it goes, lets give it 5 years - as a professional I will have to shift one day to keep pace with the competition, until then, its ones ability/editing in 2018)

Raymond Lin · 29 Apr 2018 at 22:00

Combat squirrel said:
It's an interesting time to be a photographer - good lord I want the A7 III - it makes sense for me as a full time wedding photographer, also I make about 25% of my living from videography.

BUT - and I have to keep going back to this - will it make my product any 'better' - no is the answer, a photographers skill is just that - their skill - sure its a nice cam, it makes life easier with eye AF, iv been so close to pulling the trigger!! but my 5D3 is a great work horse - it more than does 'the job' - also to date I've been a canon user, as im sure Raymond has.

I'm not sure if it's my age (35) or my point in my career - but there is a point where you stop looking at specs, hardware, 'x' stops of dynamic range and just clicks one day, oh yeah, it's me that's taking the photographs........so be that, be you - take your photos, do your best work, try your best - in this day and age with ever incremental improvements to hardware based mostly on capitalism - it's time to get back to reality - Ansel didn't have any where near this camera tech - yet he's timeless.

Great cam - but - I'll go out and do photography instead.

(disclaimer: sure the shift to mirrorless is the biggest deal since digital cameras, I'm excited to see where it goes, lets give it 5 years - as a professional I will have to shift one day to keep pace with the competition, until then, its ones ability/editing in 2018)

I bought mine on a whim and to be honest, you are right, it doesn’t make me take better photos. I can give you reasons but it’ll just be excuses to justify my purchase, nothing more. I didn’t get it to down size, or anything like that, the truth is I wanted new toys and deep down I want to see for myself what the eye AF is about along with the DR from Sony.

In practical terms I guess I can have a fractionally smaller camera for holiday. That’s about it.

That said, the Zeiss 50/1.4 is gorgeous, although that’s not something a layman can tell compare to the Sigma.

Combat squirrel · 29 Apr 2018 at 22:08

Raymond Lin said:
I bought mine on a whim and to be honest, you are right, it doesn’t make me take better photos. I can give you reasons but it’ll just be excuses to justify my purchase, nothing more. I didn’t get it to down size, or anything like that, the truth is I wanted new toys and deep down I want to see for myself what the eye AF is about along with the DR from Sony.

In practical terms I guess I can have a fractionally smaller camera for holiday. That’s about it.

That said, the Zeiss 50/1.4 is gorgeous, although that’s not something a layman can tell compare to the Sigma.

Yeah absolutely - the hard part about living in a world of commercialism is the constant kicking I've had to give myself not to get it - but its been a serious battle, your reasons are the same, I kept trying to say eye AF is worth it - but it's not gonna change my photography overnight, I know of 50 things I can investigate to make it 'better', but its just trying new things - so really its just practice.

Don't get me wrong I'd love one - but it pains me to say, I don't need one, I'll get by no problems.

Raymond Lin · 29 Apr 2018 at 22:45

Combat squirrel said:
Yeah absolutely - the hard part about living in a world of commercialism is the constant kicking I've had to give myself not to get it - but its been a serious battle, your reasons are the same, I kept trying to say eye AF is worth it - but it's not gonna change my photography overnight, I know of 50 things I can investigate to make it 'better', but its just trying new things - so really its just practice.

Don't get me wrong I'd love one - but it pains me to say, I don't need one, I'll get by no problems.

One thing it will improve is more keepers, especially in portraits. It just saves a bit of time, and also headache.

DeathStorm · 30 Apr 2018 at 02:00

Combat squirrel said:
I'm not sure if it's my age (35) or my point in my career - but there is a point where you stop looking at specs, hardware, 'x' stops of dynamic range and just clicks one day, oh yeah, it's me that's taking the photographs........so be that, be you - take your photos, do your best work, try your best - in this day and age with ever incremental improvements to hardware based mostly on capitalism - it's time to get back to reality - Ansel didn't have any where near this camera tech - yet he's timeless.

Yeah I told myself the same thing a month before buying the A73. On the bright side the lenses I have now are considerably better than what I was using, not that I really needed them but it's nice, if an expensive indulgence.

It bugs me a little though, I wanted to switch back to Canon for years as having started with them they're just a little more comfortable to me personally but Canon insists on giving me no reason to bother with their cameras.