Flat earth brigade - I have no words

Eratosthenes used the curvature of the Earth to calculate its size. That was about 2200 years ago. The method he used is known and can be very easily and very cheaply checked nowadays by anyone who cares to do so. As a side effect, it also proves that the Earth isn't flat. That wasn't the point, of course. People back then already knew the world wasn't flat. There's an older surviving ancient Greek formal proof that the Earth is a sphere(*) and there may well have been even earlier proofs that haven't survived.

If the Earth is flat, I want a container made of sapient pearwood and I want to have a few beers with Nanny Ogg.




* Strictly speaking they were wrong - Earth isn't the perfect sphere they thought it was. They lacked the technology necessary to make accurate enough measurements to detect the slight deviation from a perfect sphere. But the relevant point is that it's very far from flat.

EDIT: In case anyone is curious enough to want to know the details but not curious enough to look for and read them, here's a very quick summary. He compared the shadows cast by two sticks of the same length at the same time in two different places with the same longitude. The difference between the shadows was due to the curvature of the Earth resulting in sunlight hitting the surface at different angles in the two places, so he could use that to calculate the angles of a triangle between the centre of the Earth and the two sticks and thus calculate what proportion of the circumference of the Earth lay between the two sticks. Since they were a known distance apart, simple multiplication then gives the circumference of the Earth.
 
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Deja Vu, swear I've seen that segment before, but it's a new upload... Weird.

You may have done back in 2011.
Apparently all those ideas were in another video by the same bloke but in that video he had met an Alien who told him how to do the experiments.

When they came up with the model and all the continents in a different place the first thing I thought of is how airplanes get from A to B!
So even the airplane companies are in on the scam of showing us a globe because while we see a nice globe map on our screens they may be flying over China to get to Ibiza :)
 
They need to actually consider, what would the benefit be of making people think the earth is round Vs flat?
 
I was always under the impression that the flat earth society was started by trolls to see how many nutters they could get onside. They appear to have been quite successful.
 
When i studied geology at university we were shown the true flatness of the earth and how it formed uniquely at this one planet.
so 100% fact.
 
Pretty sure the flat earth stuff respawned from 4chan/reddit some years ago. In other words internet, trolls and "Lulz" and societies parasites who jumped on board for the YouTube cash. Then there is the poor morons who were unaware it is a troll and actually take it seriously.
 
They need to actually consider, what would the benefit be of making people think the earth is round Vs flat?
So does anybody know why flat-earthers think there is a global (hehe) conspiracy to hide that the Earth is flat?

They reckon a flat, domed Earth proves the existence of a creator.
The satanic illuminati running the world wish to hide the existence of God.
 
In reality this isn't at all to do with if the Earth is flat or not. It's a bunch of people who are at odds with current societal norms and want to believe their lives are so bad because of a conspiracy.

They change the context of any conversation to one where everything is a conspiracy, thus you cannot prove them wrong. It's an easy trick that people trying to argue something not based in fact do all the time (See Religion).

We should run a crowdfund to buy the Flat Earth Society a GoPro and a weather balloon. Let them run that experiment themselves.
 
How do flat earthers explain travelling in one direction to the 'end' and ending up on the other side? Ancient magic?
 
Eratosthenes used the curvature of the Earth to calculate its size. That was about 2200 years ago. The method he used is known and can be very easily and very cheaply checked nowadays by anyone who cares to do so. As a side effect, it also proves that the Earth isn't flat. That wasn't the point, of course. People back then already knew the world wasn't flat. There's an older surviving ancient Greek formal proof that the Earth is a sphere(*) and there may well have been even earlier proofs that haven't survived.

If the Earth is flat, I want a container made of sapient pearwood and I want to have a few beers with Nanny Ogg.




* Strictly speaking they were wrong - Earth isn't the perfect sphere they thought it was. They lacked the technology necessary to make accurate enough measurements to detect the slight deviation from a perfect sphere. But the relevant point is that it's very far from flat.

EDIT: In case anyone is curious enough to want to know the details but not curious enough to look for and read them, here's a very quick summary. He compared the shadows cast by two sticks of the same length at the same time in two different places with the same longitude. The difference between the shadows was due to the curvature of the Earth resulting in sunlight hitting the surface at different angles in the two places, so he could use that to calculate the angles of a triangle between the centre of the Earth and the two sticks and thus calculate what proportion of the circumference of the Earth lay between the two sticks. Since they were a known distance apart, simple multiplication then gives the circumference of the Earth.

I love that story in the edit. I think its amazing that we have/had people that can come up with that sort of stuff. I like to think i'm reasonably intelligent but would never be able to think outside the box to work out stuff like that. Great stuff. :)
 
How do flat earthers explain travelling in one direction to the 'end' and ending up on the other side? Ancient magic?

My only question to them would be that when i flew from the UK to Australia why did i have the option of stopping halfway at Kuala Lumpur or Vegas? Are they saying that both these places are in the middle of the flat earth between here and Oz??? Or is this the work of the ancient magic ends again?!
 
My only question to them would be that when i flew from the UK to Australia why did i have the option of stopping halfway at Kuala Lumpur or Vegas? Are they saying that both these places are in the middle of the flat earth between here and Oz??? Or is this the work of the ancient magic ends again?!

You can't fly in a straight line because of the ice giants.
 
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