Scumbag lorry drivers!

Orionaut said:
Except that this is a falicy.

I am not a fast driver,

a) Cos I grew out of my Boy Racer stage decades ago
b) In the landcruiser the difference between 55 and 70 is the diference between 22MPG and 37 (Yes really, 37 on a long run)
c) After many years of anecdotal experiance, yuou really dont get there much quicker. I will typically arrive at Mrs Garmins predicted time +/- a couple of minutes. Driving like a hoon might shave 5-10 off that, but rarely more than that.

Now, My motorway stratagy is to pick a lightly loaded truck and maintain station about 4 seconds behind it and chill.

Occasionally I get trucks that pass going faster than my pacemaker and we get the dueling banjos thing where they take miles and minutes to pass.

Making Progress! In your dreams!

20 miles later when we all hit the heavy traffic/roadworks there he is, in the same traffic jam, 2-3 vehicles ahead.

The "Making Progress" argument is ********, really it is!
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It’s no falicy, it’s a matter of fact.
The number of times I’ve stopped for a break on 4:29 or a rest period on 9:59 are countless, the reason for this is - more often than not - trying to find a safe place to stop for said break or rest only to pass numerous full lay-by’s until eventually I find a spot to stop.

You have to maximise your time whilst moving because more often than not at the end of the day your glad of every minute left on your driving time or spread over which lets you get to that stopping place within your driving time.

I start looking for somewhere to stop around 4:00 hrs into my 4:30 period, that 30 minuets is invariably spent passing endless full places to stop until I find somewhere with a spot free.

That’s why maintaining progress- and saving time - is everything.
 
ahh HGVs. Sorry you truckers here, dont take it personally, but the HGV drivers i encounter on my commute up and down the m1 are more annoying than any middle lane hogger ive encountered. I have, on several occasions, passed multiple lanes of HGVS up the inside on the hard shoulder (when allowed to use it of course....) at 60, with a clear road in front of me. It's like middle lane hogger times three...times 10. huge massive rolling 50 mile an hour road blocks, all of them ignoring the USE THE HARD SHOULDER signs above them for miles on end.
 
james.miller said:
ahh HGVs. Sorry you truckers here, dont take it personally, but the HGV drivers i encounter on my commute up and down the m1 are more annoying than any middle lane hogger ive encountered. I have, on several occasions, passed multiple lanes of HGVS up the inside on the hard shoulder (when allowed to use it of course....) at 60, with a clear road in front of me. It's like middle lane hogger times three...times 10. huge massive rolling 50 mile an hour road blocks, all of them ignoring the USE THE HARD SHOULDER signs above them for miles on end.
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I agree, they often do this on the m6 near Birmingham where it's 4 lanes wide.
 
Scania said:
It’s no falicy, it’s a matter of fact.
The number of times I’ve stopped for a break on 4:29 or a rest period on 9:59 are countless, the reason for this is - more often than not - trying to find a safe place to stop for said break or rest only to pass numerous full lay-by’s until eventually I find a spot to stop.

You have to maximise your time whilst moving because more often than not at the end of the day your glad of every minute left on your driving time or spread over which lets you get to that stopping place within your driving time.

I start looking for somewhere to stop around 4:00 hrs into my 4:30 period, that 30 minuets is invariably spent passing endless full places to stop until I find somewhere with a spot free.

That’s why maintaining progress- and saving time - is everything.
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Best one I had was Barnsley > Birmingham > Barnsley. Parked in the yard at 4:29, thanks to the overtaking on the M1/42.
 
rubberduck said:
Why do they see the need to overtake another lorry on a 4 lane dual carriageway road when they are going about 0.1 miles per hour faster than the lorry in front resulting in an overtake that takes multiple minutes??? This results in a massive build up of vehicles behind and generally slows the flow of traffic down substantially. Also, if you leave reasonable braking distance to the car it results in having to be ultra vigilant when passing lorries as you can be sure one of them scumbags will pull out in front of you to attempt a pointless overtake...

Bunch of absolute scumbags... I hate every last one of them to the core.
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Spoken like a true "I've never driven anything larger than a car" man....
 
EvilRob said:
I agree, they often do this on the m6 near Birmingham where it's 4 lanes wide.
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Don't tell them otherwise!!!!

I use this as my shortcut on a Monday morning when travelling down to the M5. From j10 of the M6 lanes 2, 3 & 4 grind to a halt, whilst the hard shoulder lane breezes past them all.
 
Pyscho_Si said:
I like the fact in France / Spain, a quick flash of the headlights as you come up to a lorry which is about to make an overtake will cause it (80% of the time) to abort the overtake.

What annoys me in the UK is that a 5 minute overtake between 2 lorries usually causes people in lane 3 to hit the brakes as people in lane 2 force themselves into lane 3.
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Thats hardly the HGV's fault if the drivers in lane 2 and 3 can't see the big 44Ton monster switching lanes...The problem is people get on those long straight roads with nothing coming the other way and stop concentrating on what going on around them.
 
mattyg said:
Thats hardly the HGV's fault if the drivers in lane 2 and 3 can't see the big 44Ton monster switching lanes...The problem is people get on those long straight roads with nothing coming the other way and stop concentrating on what going on around them.
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Totally agree ... the fault is drivers in lane 3 not leaving sufficient gaps between cars and drivers in lane 2 forcing themselves out.
 
james.miller said:
ahh HGVs. Sorry you truckers here, dont take it personally, but the HGV drivers i encounter on my commute up and down the m1 are more annoying than any middle lane hogger ive encountered. I have, on several occasions, passed multiple lanes of HGVS up the inside on the hard shoulder (when allowed to use it of course....) at 60, with a clear road in front of me. It's like middle lane hogger times three...times 10. huge massive rolling 50 mile an hour road blocks, all of them ignoring the USE THE HARD SHOULDER signs above them for miles on end.
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I’ll never understand why truckers especially wouldn’t take advantage of using the hard shoulder - as you say, when permitted - it invariably flows better because a lot of people simply can’t grasp that they can use it when instructed to do so and more importantly stops people creeping up your near side into your blind spot.

I always use it when permitted and it never ceases to amaze me how much queuing traffic I pass by, I have in a few occasions had a self styled “traffic cop” decide to pull into the hard shoulder and stop to prevent me passing (an incredibly brave / stupid thing to do imo) thinking I assume that I’m just queue jumping - and clearly oblivious to the gantry instruction to use the hard shoulder!
 
He's probably trying to get his own back on the odd road captain HGV driver that blocks half of lane 3 when 2 miles from a lane closure/Contraflow etc approaching roadworks..

I said odd as most are decent
 
But then at around 1 to 2 miles from the lane closure/contraflow is exactly where you should be looking at starting to merge into single file, in the open lane, not cutting into the open lane 1 to 2 feet from the first cone like most people.
 
Entai said:
But then at around 1 to 2 miles from the lane closure/contraflow is exactly where you should be looking at starting to merge into single file, in the open lane, not cutting into the open lane 1 to 2 feet from the first cone like most people.
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You’re meant to merge in turn as per the signs, not miles before. The signs are never 1-2 miles before the closure.

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/driving-advice/zip-merging/
 
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They are never a couple of feet before the lane runs out either.

It is not the early merging that causes the issue it is the idiots that early merge AND slow down.

Keep your speed up, right on the posted limit if necessary, and everyone will flow through in a single file at the exact same speed, so no slowing and jams will be caused.

In that situation anyone coming down the outside to merge at last second WILL be the one in the wrong as the other traffic already in line, already at correct gaps, already all at the same, speed WILL have to slow down to allow the idiots in.
 
Entai said:
But then at around 1 to 2 miles from the lane closure/contraflow is exactly where you should be looking at starting to merge into single file, in the open lane, not cutting into the open lane 1 to 2 feet from the first cone like most people.
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You are so wrong it hurts. You're supposed to merge in turn at the point of closure.

Doing it earlier than that just jams up the open lane, and leaves the closed lane empty as people don't want the stigma of being 'that guy' who appears to be zipping past everyone, even though it's what *should* happen, it's just morons changed lanes too early.
 
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