Kendrick Lamar calls out white fan for rapping n-word onstage with him at concert

[Caracus2k]

Well they are, just on the opposite end of the usual spectrum (usual by some). It’s no different than the cheeky monkey t-shirt event that occurred not long ago.

errrrrrr Nope I still think you are confused the 'cheeky monkey T-Shirt saga' was SJW's saying that the advert was racist... again I don't think 'SJW's' are defending the rights of white people to use the word in question.....​

No the mistake of where she was asked to sing the clean version i assume. It’s in the video not sure why your confused.

The 'clean' version where it appears that the backing vocals she's singing along to (from the artist) appear to include the include the offending word before she even says it?

Lets all listen along.....


***Song starts*** (female isn't signing at first it just the backing track)****

When the females is signing along the words are highlighted and normal when its just the backing track

...............….​

They'd probably gun me down by the end of this song
Seem like the whole city go against me
Every time I'm in the street I hear
"Yawk! Yawk! Yawk! Yawk!"
"Man down
Where you from, **You can hear the 'N' word NOT SANG BY THE WOMAN*!!!?"
"**word rhymes with duck** who you know, where you from, my *****?"
"Where your grandma stay, huh, my *****?"
"This m.A.A.d city I run, my ****"

She clearly doesn't sing along with the first use of the word which can be heard being sung on the track!

 

[agw_01]

The 'clean' version where it appears that the backing vocals she's singing along to (from the artist) appear to include the include the offending word before she even says it?

Sounds like she even misses the word out in the first instance, hears it on the backing vocals and presumes it's ok to say it.

Poor girl, the audience were cruel. I don't think Kendrick did anything wrong though, he stopped the track, made it clear what he wanted and carried on.

 

[Mason-]

Like todays Labour party rallies with men and women being segregated?

TBH it's only a matter of time before the 'progressive' left start segregating by race again and they'll brand it as something warm and fuzzy that portrays blacks as victims of white oppression to create yet more division.

They'll keep putting is into more and more groups until there are so many groups that they get down to individuals. Then they'll stand for individualism. And then they'll realise they can't band together all tory voters as scum, and then they'll go back to classifying people as groups and repeat ad nauseum.

 

[Craterloads]

errrrrrr Nope I still think you are confused the 'cheeky monkey T-Shirt saga' was SJW's saying that the advert was racist... again I don't think 'SJW's' are defending the rights of white people to use the word in question.....​

They are outraged on her behalf certainly in this thread and are defending the right for her to use it. I am not confused perhaps you are confused, perhaps your definition of "SJWs" is only for certain types of people and not for others.

Like i said did the girl in question have any issues with being told not to use the word, was she offended?

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That doesn't go against anything i stated so not sure what you are arguing about. She was asked to not say the word, she agreed to it and apologized when reminded after saying it. That was the mistake i referred to earlier. Clearly you know this as you stated it yourself to which i replied to initially.

It was incrediblbly stupid to have a fan come up and sing it and expect them to stick to the 'clean' version

Why, who’s world ended. She made a mistake, he corrected her and they carried on. Nothing happened.

 

[Caracus2k]

I am not confused perhaps you are confused, perhaps your definition of "SJWs" is only for certain types of people and not for others.

Let me explain how descriptive words (or acronyms), including prerogative ones like 'SJW' work...….

Descriptive words, if they are to useful, are best used in a fashion where they do describe some groups of things and not others otherwise they are not very good as descriptive words...….

So if we wish to describe a group of people, including by use of prerogative terms, its helpful if the terms used are applied just to the group intended and not other groups who could best be described with other words... in terms of 'SJW's' I think the following definition is a pretty good

Social justice warrior (commonly abbreviated SJW) is a pejorative term for an individual who promotes socially progressive views, including feminism, civil rights, and multiculturalism, as well as identity politics.

I don't think a group defending a white woman for saying the word in question would at all fit this (or any similar) definition

Like i said did the girl in question have any issues with being told not to use the word, was she offended?

Offended? probably more like a bit embarrassed at the time and regretting it like hell now...... as she has been turned, by some, into a social pariah.

That doesn't go against anything i stated so not sure what you are arguing about. She was asked to not say the word, she agreed to it and apologized when reminded after saying it. That was the mistake i referred to earlier. Clearly you know this as you stated it yourself to which i replied to initially.

She appears to have been asked not to use the word 'after the fact'.....i.e. using the word after listening along to the backing track which included the word she was then castigated for repeating ​

 

[Craterloads]

Let me explain how descriptive words, including prerogative ones like 'SJW' work...….

Descriptive words, if they are to useful, are best used in a fashion where they do describe some groups of things and not others...….

So if we wish to describe a group of people, including by use of prerogative terms, its helpful if the terms used are apply just to the group intended and not other groups... in terms of 'SJW's' I think the following definition is a pretty good



I don't think a group defending a white woman for saying the word in question would at all fit this (or any similar) definition

There actions do, defending someone or a group who didn't ask for any defense. It's a made up term which has only come about in the last few years. In this case people coming out to defend this girl are being SJWs just not in the usual manifestation.

Cheeky Monkey Fiasco - SJWs say he shouldn't be wearing that.
White girl drops N bombs - SJWs say she should be allowed to say that.

Neither asked for defense.

 

[Narj]

Massive non-issue but it does stink of a set-up. Was the concert marked as family friendly, in which case she should have picked up on the cues and known better. If not, meh, it irritates me that it's fine to use that word every few seconds in some songs as long as the person saying it is black. Reminds me of that scene with Jackie Chan in Rush Hour.

Something is either offensive or it isn't. End of.

EDIT: Seeing YT video above, what a joke. Let the word die by not popularising it and using it in songs anymore, how does that sound?

 

[Caracus2k]

There actions do, defending someone or a group who didn't ask for any defense. It's a made up term which has only come about in the last few years. In this case people coming out to defend this girl are being SJWs just not in the usual manifestation.

Cheeky Monkey Fiasco - SJWs say he shouldn't be wearing that.
White girl drops N bombs - SJWs say she should be allowed to say that.

Neither asked for defense.

All words are 'made up' ...….that's how words work...…. humans make them up. I challenge you to find me a definition of SJW that includes it be a descriptive term for people, in general, who defend people who haven't asked for it.

SJW's may act like this in some cases (where it fits in with their views) but its not what defines them.

 

[Whitewater]

From just a quick look at the link, I don't think it's to do with he's allowed to and a white girl isn't, it looks more like no-one should. He just asked her to sensor herself and they carried on. Maybe the concert was for all ages or something and he was generally doing 'clean' versions.

If someone was being interviewed on the BBC and they started dropping f bombs, they'd be asked not to and would carry on. That doesn't mean the interviewer is offended by the f bomb or never does it themselves, just that it's not allowed/appropriate for the audience.

Still, don't let that get in the way of your outrage...

I’m thinking along those lines too; the Hangout Festival is open to ages 13+.

 

[Caracus2k]

I’m thinking along those lines too; the Hangout Festival is open to under 18s.

Watch the video! She is not the first person to use the word! She repeats it in the second line of the chorus after its sung (not by her) in the first!

She was not asked to censor herself as no one was allowed to use the word!

 

[Craterloads]

All words are 'made up' ...….that's how words work...…. humans make them up.

I said term.

I challenge you to find me a definition of SJW that includes it be a descriptive term for people, in general, who defend people who haven't asked for it. SJW's may act like this in some cases (where it fits in with their views) but its not what defines them.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJW

They defend people who can defend themselves but an SJW believes they are weak and need help!

Here's the guy the girl in question followed on to the stage. He managed to sing the song according to the rules without using the N word pulling the mic away at said moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMLiyYFNkAs

https://theblast.com/kendrick-lamar-show-rohan-n-word-delaney-hangout-fest/

"My boy Rohan kinda knew the rules a little bit," Lamar explained. "You gotta bleep one single word, though."

he explained to her, to which she apologized for signalling she knew. It was a mistake, nothing more.

A concertgoer who filmed the performance and shared it on Twitter explained that part of the reason the crowd was so angry was because Delaney had been "begging" to join Lamar on stage.

"Kendrick asked her if she was sure and she said yes… so like… don't blame Kendrick. This girl just has no filter," the Twitter user wrote.

 

[Caracus2k]

I said term.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJW

Here's the guy the girl in question followed on to the stage. He managed to sing the song according to the rules without using the N word pulling the mic away at said moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMLiyYFNkAs

https://theblast.com/kendrick-lamar-show-rohan-n-word-delaney-hangout-fest/

he explained to her, to which she apologized for signalling she knew. It was a mistake, nothing more.

The term (more accurately an acronym) 'SJW' is comprised of words and is similarly 'made up'


Wow quoting the satire site 'the urban dictionary' as your source..... Scrapping the barrel much?.... A site that contains a list of definitions for 'SJW' that has 'skeleton jazz wizard' as a more highly rated (proportionally) definition of 'SJW' then the one you cherry picked..... Let's look at the full, incoherent, rambling definition you picked in full....

Social Justice Warrior

Someone who appears to be all for cis gender, homosexuality, mass immigration, shut down of National boarders and order, someone who believes Women are Superior to Men!

They use violence in the name of peace and equality, they do not consider other opinions as equal Free Speech as those who are saying them, are worse than child killing terrorists! They try not to offend the people who are highly sensitive and can offended by the slightest of things! SJW's would jump to defend this person at the drop of a hat, but might not fully respect or understand the person they are defending! Any time they see an opportunity to shame, excite bigotry or exercise physical violence to push their agenda and gain popularity in the SJW Community they will jump in without formulating their argument first.

They say Political Opinions can not be done trough emotions (see Brexit) yet they base all their opinions purely out of emotions! They defend people who can defend themselves but an SJW believes they are weak and need help!

Basically whatever your view is, if it makes them look Progressive (Regressive) and can shame you to further hate speech, or it does not push the Agenda... you're wrong regardless of the topic in question! See Extreme Brexit Remainers, Extreme Feminist for details!
SJW's are the new Generation of the World. They will be the cause of the Downfall of Western Culture and Society as we know it! They already change History and Language and Stories to "Include all Genders and Races" even if it goes against Historical Fact as this will not offend the highly sensitive and be Progressive! They care nothing for the very Nation they are in and if it is attacked by a Facist Ideology they will defend those that attacked it and groups accosiated with those people! Because they too have Facist tendercies and relate to the oppression of those who do jot comply to your belief!They want History to be Politically Correct and without realising are the new birth of Facism in the World. If we control waht people see and say, we control the Masses!

So they guy who went on first decided to self censor and not sing along with certain words?

I'm glad I don't care for this particular artist.

Who pays to go and see a performer who seems to spend a big proportion of their time have fans up on stage singing their songs instead of singing them themselves....?

And it still doesn't help with the key objection to this issue which is that the 'artist' is on stage singing ***** this and ***** that in front of a crowd including some people who can't sing along to all the words for 'reasons'.

If your claim is that black people are 'reclaiming' the pejorative term *****.... Remind them, at least inthe UK how this should work.... The term 'Tory', as used to refer to members of the Conservative party, has its roots in a pejorative slur with the word derived from the Gaelic for outlaw ....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30899534

No one gets all precious about who can use that term based on their group identity because it has truly been 'reclaimed' by the group it was initially used as a slur against vs the faux reclaiming of ***** by blacks where they try to use it as some sort of political battering ram to enforce a form of silly racial superiority/privilege over who can use certain words and who can't (regadless of context)

 

[Scort]

What a ****

 

[LOAM]

I find it an offensive derogatory word (reclaimed or not) that I would never use. It has to be said though that if you find it offensive to hear then don't write it in your songs, you can't cherry pick who can and can't sing them, within the context of how they were written.

 

[h4rm0ny]

If a white person cannot say the n-word, because at some point in time, white people have accepted that it's not something that is acceptable to black people, then we are no different to white people sitting in a coffee shop without buying a coffee, asking black people doing the same thing, to leave. The word, identified as racist, is either racist to both groups and all people, or it isn't. It can't be one thing to some and not to others.

Point of reference, that Starbucks incident was pretty twisted by BLM and some media. There's no way the time line matches up with what the two ejected said and that Starbucks had a strict policy of the bathroom being for paying customers only. It began when one of the two men asked for the bathroom key but wouldn't buy anything and escalated from there. No good evidence it was due to racism.

Seems we have a case of SJWs loosing control again and jumping to defence of this white girl.

That's not what SJW means. SJWs would be condemning this woman.

 

[NVP]

Edit nwm

 

[XeNoN89]

Lol at SJWs trying to claim back the term SJW by labeling people the opposite of SJWs as SJWs

 

[insideline]

Lol at SJWs trying to claim back the term SJW by labeling people the opposite of SJWs as SJWs

Honestly whats the difference between an SJW getting triggered and you a fully grown man getting so mad over this that you announce to a forum of strangers that you'll be removing an artist from your Spotify playlist.

I know what one most people will find funny

 

[Narj]

I find it an offensive derogatory word (reclaimed or not) that I would never use. It has to be said though that if you find it offensive to hear then don't write it in your songs, you can't cherry pick who can and can't sing them, within the context of how they were written.

Yeah it's like I'd never use the "p" word because I know how much a few of my mates from that background absolutely hate it. I'm not so sure about "reclaimed" - I sometimes think the "n" word has become weaponised to a degree when I see these kind of news stories.

Oh and..

 

[XeNoN89]

Honestly whats the difference between an SJW getting triggered and you a fully grown man getting so mad over this that you announce to a forum of strangers that you'll be removing an artist from your Spotify playlist.

I know what one most people will find funny

SJW doesn't just mean somebody who is 'triggered'