Boris and the burka

A Nun is a religious. A muslim woman wearing the full kit is just a woman! She aint no religious.
 
How on earth are they opposite? I mean call it what it is, don't beat around the bush ffs
What part of my post are you having trouble understanding?

You do realise that nuns don't cover their faces whereas women wearing a burka do?

One has their face uncovered and the other has their face covered, they are opposites. :rolleyes:
 
Ok so in that case should we also ban "roadmans" that wear hoodies and then have their face covered showing only their eyes?

You do realise that there is a wider issue here with religion and social norms, and it's not just about security?

But to answer your question yes, if society deemed it was necessary then sure. Slippery slope no doubt...
 
These discussions have so much potential about learning new things and seeing things from another perspective, whether you agree with them or not. Not sure if that potential is fully realised though. ;)
 
About time common sense took precedence over peoples' feelings in all honesty. Boris is a knobber but he is right.

If you can walk into a bank wearing a Burqa then you should be allowed in a bank wearing a balaclava or a colander (if you follow the FSM PBUH).
 
Don't drag nuns into this, most didn't wear a full veil as it would have made falling into the septic tank or mass grave too much of a risk when they buried the hundreds if not thousands of illegitimate babies they couldn't flog off for illegal adoption... ;) Fairs fair, and just to show I am impartial really :)

My objections to women in the UK wearing them are firstly security issues and secondly I don't want my country to look like some Tunisian bazaar. The wearing of the things is contrary to full and enthusiastic integration.
 
Theresa may is telling him to apologise now :rolleyes: the burka has no place in the uk boris is right it's ridiculous according to link below he got it wrong though i don't think you can get a letter though this

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never seen that in the uk anyone else ? the letter box style niqab yes

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/24118241

the other head scarves here hijab ect..no problem with that
 
@Raggs I've seen them very occasionally, generally around Mayfair/Piccadilly, usually with designer bags - presumably wives and family members of Saudi royalty on a shopping trip!

Presumably there are some that actually live in the UK though.
 
I found the comment hilarious, its like something Bill Burr would have said.

I don't agree with banning it. Must be horrible for the women though, I can't see how its anything but oppression.
 
the Iranian woman at the world cup spoke volumes in Russia wearing face paint and crop top midriff showing, id wearing headscarf she wouldn't wearing that given a free choice.

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No, but you are saying "builders" (the strawman) don't get special treatment. Therefore muslims in burkas shouldn't, when no-one is talking about builders other than you.

"A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man.""

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

Learn it.

Like I pointed out already I was putting forth my own argument, I was not responding to an opponent's argument/attempting to misrepresent an argument put forth by others. It isn't a straw man. You seemingly don't even understand the definition right in front of you.

I've simply given an example (or rather two) of where someone might make flippant comments with regards to clothing and generate no controversy.

Treating people equally isn't the same as treating everybody the same.

Besides which, again, I don't think anyone is criticising Johnson for expressing his opinion on burkas. It's the way he's expressed it and the language he's used which is wrong.

In this example deliberately moderating your language/criticism for this instance where you wouldn't do so in other instances of criticising clothing wouldn't be treating people equally. It would be pandering to certain people based on their identity - I guess you perhaps subscribe to the bigotry of low expectations.... not too surprising.

I don't see why it is "wrong" to be flippant about clothing when criticising it. And I don't see why someone should be pandered to, treated with kid gloves in a situation like this where you'd be a bit more blunt with regards to others. Especially when the criticism is being made in regards to something particularly oppressive.

the Iranian woman at the world cup spoke volumes in Russia wearing face paint and crop top midriff showing, id wearing headscarf she wouldn't wearing that given a free choice.

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^^^ that just about sums it up in plenty of cases tbh...

Why isn't MeToo going in to nuclear meltdown about Muslim women being forced in to a dress code by men? I don't see any criticism from those lot at all...

same issue as usual, people on the left are prone to ignoring various messed up issues relating to Islam

you get occasionally amusing incidents like a UK ex-muslim group quite rightly wanting to march in gay pride events and a London mosque wanting to have them banned... these are people who've been suppressed by a religion, by their community and are therefore marching for the very reasons pride events started and their signs are of course often critical of Islam or contain things like "Allah is a gay god" - the sort of thing that would generate screeches of "racism" or threats of arrest by the police for breach of the peace in other circumstances... but because it is pride and they're just doing what gay rights campaigners have done for decades with regards to mainstream culture in the UK and Christianity then it is an amusing conundrum that the organisers have... do they allow the "Islamophobia" that we get repeatedly told these days is "racism" or do they allow a bunch of oppressed gay ex-muslim people to carry on marching and protesting in exactly the same way as gay people who have been brought up in Christian households have done in the past.


Do people on here go through life constantly raging at everything all day long. :D

apparently so, all Boris did was criticise some clothing choice but instead we get screeches of racism etc.. in another context, when criticising clothing, no one would care
 
Ok so in that case should we also ban "roadmans" that wear hoodies and then have their face covered showing only their eyes?

They often are banned from shopping centres etc... In fact if you went one step further and decided to walk into say the City of London wearing a balaclava then you'd probably have a very good chance of being stopped by the police.

Not that I think we should ban these silly clothing options.
 
meant to post this before - here is a post from a liberal muslim that just about sums up this nonsense:

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It is not racist to challenge religion (which is an idea, not a race). It is our civic duty. It is not offensive to remind everyone that this isn’t normal. It is offensive to advocate for this to become normalised.
 
So you don't think a woman who wears a burka is doing it for religious purposes. Wow. Did you go to the school of Trump. Jeez

Its not in the koran. Its not done for religious purposes. Open your eyes. Get educated pal.

Do you even know the difference between a Nun and a woman who wears a burka? Obviously not!
 
It's quite literally in the Qu'ran, do you want me to point you to the specific hadiths? It's the whole reason you know, that's there's a debate about interpretation / taking something literally. You're ignorance is astounding, stop making yourself look stupid.

*Edit* just seen you're other posts. Yup, I don't argue with ignoramus, blocked.

Please do
 
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