Soldato
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Woooooooooosh~!
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Why are EU nurses leaving then BRUH.
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*Morgan Freeman voice*
It was then that StriderX realised the entire Western world was moving right because of people like him.
It was then that StriderX realised the entire Western world was moving right because of people like him.
Good, gives us a list.
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Exactly, why are they leaving! They have no reason to. They’ve already been told they can remain in the U.K and in their jobs.
It’s not Boris or Brexit, it’s the state of the NHS that’s driving most of it.
Sick of none European staff?
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Could be true. The ward my old man was in recently was nothing but Filipino nurses with such heavy accents and poor English that you were lucky if you caught a couple of words every now and then.
Absolutely! He only said what most European people think anyway.
True. THere are plenty of home-grown nurses (and doctors) who are also leaving.
Have some in my family, in fact. They say the NHS is just a complete joke, and they can go abroad after training, resulting in less stress, better conditions, and to top it all off, better pay.
The NHS has an extremely toxic management culture, where bullying and intimidation is commonplace. If you're highly trained and highly skilled, why wouldn't you go somewhere less stressful; where you're not completely overworked and struggling to cope with ridiculous workloads?
People are leaving because the NHS is a bad place to work, not because of the UK itself.
It's largely staffed by complete tools. Quite a lot of the perpetually offended types work there actually and it creates an unfriendly working environment for normal people.
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They sound like racists.
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Boris should have stuck this in the article for good measure.
I thought they already did? like the Philippines
Don't see EU immigration getting lower when we leave the EU
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Of course we can recruit nurses Worldwide already. The EU doesn't stop that.
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NHS is a shambles. My mum worked in a team of 3 processing staff training records, when the workload increased rather than employ more admin staff they brought in 2 team leaders (who didn't want to do inputting) to manage the 3 staff and then wondered why the situation didn't improve...completely mismanaged. The budget is used up on red tape and inefficiencies.
My wife had an OP last Monday, they booked 2 pre-op appointments on the Wednesday before one to get consent forms sorted and the other to do the physical. We turned up to the first appointment and by 10:30 they were 50 minutes behind schedule. The consultant who she was supposed to see had been dragged off to a meeting. The referring specialist GP had not updated her records from an appointment in Feb so when we did get in to the appointment nobody had a clue why we were there. Just made it on time for the second appointment which went smoothly until they said they might not have the consent forms (which weren't the correct ones anyway despite us explaining everything to them) in time so could we bring our copy with us. Documents can't find their way from one department to another in the same hospital in 5 days. This is not a staffing problem, it's incompetent management and poor processes.
My wife had an OP last Monday, they booked 2 pre-op appointments on the Wednesday before one to get consent forms sorted and the other to do the physical. We turned up to the first appointment and by 10:30 they were 50 minutes behind schedule. The consultant who she was supposed to see had been dragged off to a meeting. The referring specialist GP had not updated her records from an appointment in Feb so when we did get in to the appointment nobody had a clue why we were there. Just made it on time for the second appointment which went smoothly until they said they might not have the consent forms (which weren't the correct ones anyway despite us explaining everything to them) in time so could we bring our copy with us. Documents can't find their way from one department to another in the same hospital in 5 days. This is not a staffing problem, it's incompetent management and poor processes.
Well he’s breaking rules by even writing the article. There has to be a time when the continued rule breaking by Boris results in the whip being removed.
Have they? By who? In writing?
Our government has the solution though. As they said the other day, once we are out of the EU we can drop the ridiculous and restrictive rules that the EU forces on us that you can’t be classified as a doctor until you have had five years training. We won’t be short of doctors once we allowed to call them doctors after one year.